In reply to a post by billford:

I'm enjoying this- it's just like old times, isn't it?

Mmm. I'm just wondering how long it will take for poltical stuff to emerge. Maybe we should assume that the future will be as we are told. Apples everywhere in the woods and not a techie in sight. Perhaps there's going to be a glut in orchards...

In reply to a post by tide:

No, its not. Nobody asks for a piece of wood in mm, or carpet in mm.

Oh boy, what world do you live in?

Both those items are priced on a per millimetre basis!!!


ROFL.... more ROFL!

In reply to a post by tide:

No, its not. Nobody asks for a piece of wood in mm, or carpet in mm. The price of a house is measured in square foot and carpet is ordered in metres.

That is the real world, welcome.

Absolute RUBBISH.

Wood is measured in mm in all three dimension - including length which is in multiples of 2400

If you need to ask you'll never understand - ever heard that phrase.

Your efforts should be an experience for you, but really your work colleagues, that's not going to be a fair test of the average joe is it.

Why not get out of the tekkie environment for one and go down the pub, try catching the bus or going to Iceland supermarket.

See then what the public are like, see how your world is completely different to theirs.

I see you just picked up on wood for this, well I will not deny wood is measured in mm - at a professional level (comparable to the knowledge of your own in this argument), but a house to a normal person certainly is not, see the parallel.

A house is never described in mm, no average person will be interested in the measurement. It will be in feet or metres which you describe your house.

Do you fancy giving up on this and coming down the pub for an two pi radians of clock hand. Maybe we can sink a few twentyfourths of a case of beer!

In reply to a post by tide:

Typical of the type of person who can probably muster less virtual Facebook friends than those in real life.

???

I have no Facebook friends and plenty in real life. A sign of real life experience perhaps?

Broadband advertising does not have a problem. Broadband terminology does not have a problem. Some consumers have a problem with both. Nothing will change until there is a reasonable demand for either or both to change. The Mbps terminology will not change because you find it confusing. It is not confusing. It is easy to understand. Ask a techie for more info on this. That's what techies are for.

In reply to a post by tide:

Technology will see off limits to fibre optics, as we understand it more, you know this. But you'll also know, if you had been following the thread properly instead of digressing, that this is all about the consumer/domestic market and advertising to families.

Families have music collections, videos and documents.. all in the MB and GB range, this is what they know and what they are comfortable with.

Precisely why then advertising needs to change for this sector.

At any given time there will always be limits. Glass is not 100% pure. Glass degrades. Some old fiber we used to run at 1gig will now only pass 100 meg. Some of the really old stuff (early 90's ) has failed alltogether.

I will slightly relent on wood, simply because it is specialist and the measure of mm in this is widely understood.. also that DIY, when done properly is greatly looked into. But, this analogy is not best suited to the argument because most do not do DIY in terms of building a house and this argument is about the average person and the infinite complexities (it seems) to the average person with measuring data transfers, those advertised by ISPs.

Also, I stand by my comment on carpet.

*please do try to contribute something of your own and not keep hanging of others*

I don't drink and its past my bed time.