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(deleted) Tue 01-Mar-11 23:11:54
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yeah I suppose - don't have ADSL2+ - don't know when / if BT would even roll it out on such a small exchange of mine.

see right now I'm getting far higher pings, just started going up and my son noticed lag on call of duty

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1180230798.png
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(deleted) Tue 01-Mar-11 23:26:57
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yarwell what do you think the problem is? could it be on my end, can you see anything from my traceroute results that would indiciate it's a problem with my connection? i've tried 3 modems, no difference.. whenever i disconnect and connect the broadband speeds go up and ping goes down but this will eventually lower the IP profile and I can't be doing that all the time.

what do you suggest I do? thanks for your help
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(member) Wed 02-Mar-11 00:18:16
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In reply to a post by jdowning640:
what do you suggest I do?

Experience has told you, Jack, that dealing with BT is a real pain, although you did achieve some success in getting them to replace the line from the pole to your house.

Phil (yarwell) has been consistent throughout this thread in suggesting that you move to a new ISP, because the issue is a routing problem that can only be resolved by your ISP, BT Broadband.
To support this, I found the following piece of advice on dslreports.com:-

�If your latency (ping times) is consistently high, you need to question your provider as to your routing. Many ISPs are not national, but are able to sell DSL nationally. In certain cases, they must route traffic all over the place even if you are trying to use local game servers or sites.
In other cases, the ISP has real (and hopefully temporary) routing problems, or a critical failure and they are on backup.
Normally network specialists plan for optimal routing, but during fast growth, your ISP may have got into a situation where customers pay penalty in ping time while the ISP figures out how to resolve the problem.�

The piece went on to say that, if faced with persistent high latency, there�s not a lot you can do.
�ISPs are not obliged to operate with any minimum latency guarantees, so vote with your feet. Discussing the problem with as senior a technical support person as you can find (not much chance of that as far as BT India is concerned) may reveal they have expansion plans that will ease the problem in your area.�

If you move to a business account with BT, things may improve, because, as suggested from the banner you saw, your line will be prioritised. But you have to ask yourself: �will the support be any better when I�m a BT business customer?�

Wagstaff

"Being right is often not enough"


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(deleted) Wed 02-Mar-11 00:24:18
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thanks Wagstaff - do you recommend any good ISPs?

I wonder if BT Business support are located in India as well, they probably are but from experience from my mobile (i know it's different, O2 consumer support were based in india whereas business support was 24/7 within the UK and usually got things done a lot quicker).

How long do I have when i move over to business to cancel the contract? the go-live date for migration is on friday this week.

thanks wagstaff & yarwell, you've been great smile
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(member) Wed 02-Mar-11 01:13:09
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In reply to a post by jdowning640:
thanks Wagstaff - do you recommend any good ISPs?

I wonder if BT Business support are located in India as well, they probably are but from experience from my mobile (i know it's different, O2 consumer support were based in india whereas business support was 24/7 within the UK and usually got things done a lot quicker).

How long do I have when i move over to business to cancel the contract? the go-live date for migration is on friday this week.

thanks wagstaff & yarwell, you've been great smile

It is difficult for anyone here to advise on ISPs. If you look through the various threads on the TBB forums you may get an idea of which ones are good and which are bad, but it is very subjective.
I've only had experience of two ISPs: BT Broadband and Plusnet. This is why I'm able to sympathise with you over your dealings with BT. Plusnet support is far, far better - you're dealing with UK-based technical people who understand your problems.

As far as your contract with BT is concerned, you should be able to find their terms and conditions somewhere on the website. I'm sure that, if you've only just ordered the business account, there must be a cooling off period for you to change your mind.

Wagstaff

"Being right is often not enough"
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Wed 02-Mar-11 08:01:52
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I've told you what I think the problem is and what you should do at least twice.

I'll avoid racial stereotypes smile

Disconnecting the PPP session does not affect the IP profile you do it from the router GUI.

Phil

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(deleted) Wed 16-Mar-11 19:38:38
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So just a little update:-

I got in touch with Ian Livingston (BT CEO) - he passed me on to someone from their executive complaints department. The situation escalated and I'm now dealing with the chairmans team.

I've had another 4-5 engineer visits and yet so far nothing has happened. They've changed my pairs at the exchange, changed me on to new equipment and done lots more. Let's just say the engineers have been nicer although that's not the issue.

Today a woman came here today (BT engineer) and went to the exchange. She said she changed the twisted pairs at the exchange and although this fixed the line fault apparently, my sync speeds have went from 7Mbps / 0.48Mbps upload to this (http://www.speedtest.net/result/1205271713.png). My sync speeds have went from what I mentioned above to this:

Connection Information

Line state Connected
Connection time 0 days, 02:12:04
Downstream 3,520 Kbps
Upstream 128 Kbps

ADSL Settings

VPI/VCI 0/38
Type PPPoA
Modulation G.992.1 Annex A
Latency type Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up) 8.3 dB / 6.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up) 55.1 dB / 31.5 dB
Output power (Down/Up) 5.4 dBm / 0.4 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote) 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote) 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote) 0 / 0
FEC Errors (Down/Up) 170 / 7824
CRC Errors (Down/Up) 34 / 438
HEC Errors (Down/Up) 129 / 158
Error Seconds (Local/Remote) 12 / 560

Does anyone know why my sync speeds have lowered so drastically? The latency was never fixed.

Thanks,

Jack
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(deleted) Wed 16-Mar-11 19:43:25
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You'll have to do a BT speedtest to see what your IP Profile is set to, but currently you're syncing at half what you were...
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(deleted) Wed 16-Mar-11 20:50:11
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I'm so sorry but I can't even access the speedtester.bt.com site it's so slow.
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(deleted) Sat 26-Mar-11 00:02:48
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Ok guys, took your advice - switched to Aquiss and the 7 day migration is over. Started on Thursday.

What can I say - things are starting to get worse. Of course this isn't Aquiss' fault and I commend them on being a great company. They helped me with my setup and were very professional.

The pings when I first got the service were great (for me atleast), 53ms (the lowest I'd ever seen them) however I'm starting to see them deteriorate again.

My son cannot play online games anymore, I even watched it and it's awful.


Ping has started�

PING bbc.co.uk (212.58.224.138): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 212.58.224.138: icmp_seq=0 ttl=117 time=52.552 ms
Request timeout for icmp_seq 1
Request timeout for icmp_seq 2
Request timeout for icmp_seq 3
Request timeout for icmp_seq 4
Request timeout for icmp_seq 5
Request timeout for icmp_seq 6
Request timeout for icmp_seq 7
Request timeout for icmp_seq 8
Request timeout for icmp_seq 9
Request timeout for icmp_seq 10
64 bytes from 212.58.224.138: icmp_seq=1 ttl=117 time=10711.362 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.224.138: icmp_seq=12 ttl=117 time=48.691 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.224.138: icmp_seq=13 ttl=117 time=49.249 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.224.138: icmp_seq=14 ttl=117 time=113.301 ms
Request timeout for icmp_seq 15
Request timeout for icmp_seq 16
Request timeout for icmp_seq 17
Request timeout for icmp_seq 18
Request timeout for icmp_seq 19
Request timeout for icmp_seq 20
64 bytes from 212.58.224.138: icmp_seq=15 ttl=117 time=6159.444 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.224.138: icmp_seq=22 ttl=117 time=51.007 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.224.138: icmp_seq=23 ttl=117 time=111.069 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.224.138: icmp_seq=24 ttl=117 time=95.061 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.224.138: icmp_seq=25 ttl=117 time=49.116 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.224.138: icmp_seq=26 ttl=117 time=48.974 ms
Request timeout for icmp_seq 27
Request timeout for icmp_seq 28
Request timeout for icmp_seq 29
Request timeout for icmp_seq 30
64 bytes from 212.58.224.138: icmp_seq=27 ttl=117 time=4061.014 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.224.138: icmp_seq=32 ttl=117 time=108.016 ms

So what do I do next? Have I exhausted all my options?
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