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(deleted) Sun 27-Mar-11 20:52:05
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Split legs ahoy.

From your video to the next twisted connection is split.

You need to change the blue/orange to blue and it's corresponding white.

Never let telecom engineers do your electrics and never let electricians do your telecoms, they just don't understand the magical properties of twisted pairs. .

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(deleted) Sun 27-Mar-11 21:36:51
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But could that be causing the packet loss problems?
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(sensei) Sun 27-Mar-11 21:44:05
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It could easily cause considerable interference to affect your internal wiring, so yes. (My wine-addled brain couldn't face all those links, but RJ is right about split pairs. They are very bad news.)

No guarantee that is the cause, but it certainly needs correcting as a step to a solution.

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(deleted) Sun 27-Mar-11 21:59:45
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As far as I can see, they are like that?:

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7818/bydefault20110...
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(deleted) Mon 28-Mar-11 18:03:06
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Yes. The black cable that will be greasy and has blue/orange connected is split. Should be blue/white. You'll need to cut the sheathing back a bit to find the right twisted white wire.

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Fastpath kicked in this morning.
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(deleted) Tue 29-Mar-11 18:55:17
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Hi Random, I'm really bad with wiring, sorry...

I need to get this sorted as I've had to move back to copper telephones for the past month or so and it's costing me a fortune.

Right so I still don't understand what's going on. As far as I can see the blue is connected with the white & the orange is connected with the orange. I've posted some separate pictures. I just want to say thank you to everyone for their help and although my latency problem is fixed, I still have high packet loss etc. frown and high jitter.

1) http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/5653/img0383rl.jpg
2) http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/5039/img0382kx.jpg
3) http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/3529/img0381ia.jpg
4) http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/2833/img0380o.jpg
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(sensei) Tue 29-Mar-11 19:52:59
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I'll try to explain, though no doubt not as well as he can when he is next here.

In the black cable there are several pairs of wire, and the two wires of each pair are twisted round each other. This in some way minimises the interference that gets picked up by the pair - I think it is because they both pick up roughly the same amount and it cancels itself out, or the equipment can do the cancelling because the two interference values are so similar.

A split pair connection is when a wire from one pair is used together with a wire from another pair. Because these two wires aren't twisted round each other they often have different noise levels picked up and so it doesn't get properly cancelled out.

He is saying the blue from the black cable will be paired with a white wire, not an orange wire. So you need to get a bit up where the black sheath is and find the white wire that is twisted round the blue one, and use that instead of the orange one. Then do the same at the other end.

Having said all that, not being an expert and not sure which pic shows wires from where, I don't understand exactly what you need to do, as for example the blue is crimped to a white, where I would have though it sensible for it to have been an ongoing blue.

So perhaps you had better wait for him or someone else who knows more than me, but I hope you understand what he is saying now?

PS - Just googled it and found this wiki article.

(Edit - just wondering, given other connections there, whether it might make sense to find the white wire that is twisted round the orange and replace the blue with that. The important thing is to get a twisted pair from end to end of all the connections, even if from one socket to another a different pair is used. For instance the pic after the video link has blue with a white stripe, which is I think is CW1308 and would be paired with white with blue markings).

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Edited by RobertoS (Tue 29-Mar-11 20:09:36)

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I'm trying to get my brother (who's a bit better at wiring than I am to do it for me) but he says that it doesn't matter what colours the wires are, different companies make different cables with different colours and it doesn't matter. I know you guys are the expert but is there any sense in that statement?

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In reply to a post by jdowning640:
I'm trying to get my brother (who's a bit better at wiring than I am to do it for me) but he says that it doesn't matter what colours the wires are, different companies make different cables with different colours and it doesn't matter. I know you guys are the expert but is there any sense in that statement?
Does he understand why twisted pairs are important?
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