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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 06-Apr-11 17:05:58
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Re: £53,000 to install a phone!


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Fail on my part

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Standard User Chrysalis
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 07-Apr-11 04:50:57
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Re: £53,000 to install a phone!


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Has anyone read the article...

The £53,000 was for the preferred option of underground ducting.
Price reduced to £16,000 if I recall for telegraph poles.

There is a case for the USO price being subject to inflation, as it has not been adjusted for some years.


I read it and it says 16k for a mile of copper over poles. That to me is extortionate and I can only conclude BT simply dont want to do the work and have as such quoted a unrealistic fee to put them off. I wonder if they could get a leased line for cheaper then that on install although any ongoing fees would obviously be much higher than a phone line. I have known for leased lines a mile or so out to be under 10k installation.
Standard User MHC
(legend) Thu 07-Apr-11 09:15:49
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Re: £53,000 to install a phone!


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 07-Apr-11 10:24:02
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Re: £53,000 to install a phone!


[re: Chrysalis] [link to this post]
 
I read it and it says 16k for a mile of copper over poles

It says , in effect,that the cost using overhead cabling was 16k, but that cost will incude installation of the poles (last time I looked they were quoting £600 a piece, maybe more now), the cabling , wayleaves (if required), plus any other network costs further along the line.
A leased line is still going to required the similar infrastructure build and (at least) the same costs
Standard User MHC
(legend) Thu 07-Apr-11 11:18:44
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Re: £53,000 to install a phone!


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In reply to a post by Ribble:
I read it and it says 16k for a mile of copper over poles

It says , in effect,that the cost using overhead cabling was 16k, but that cost will incude installation of the poles (last time I looked they were quoting £600 a piece, maybe more now), the cabling , wayleaves (if required), plus any other network costs further along the line.
A leased line is still going to required the similar infrastructure build and (at least) the same costs


I don't disagree - the cost of a single pole to be installed is £660 and for a mile there could be 30 to 40 required. 30 poles would be £19800 plus the other costs, 40 would be £26400.

So the £16k is probably lower than the actual book cost to BT.

Even working it on costs, as I suggest elsewhere, rather than per pole it still comes to a similar figure.





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Standard User ggremlin
(member) Thu 07-Apr-11 13:35:07
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Re: £53,000 to install a phone! - off topic, snowdon


[re: Deadbeat] [link to this post]
 
according to wikipeadia, they use radios for the train communications, they did have telegraphy even when it first opened

but in answer to comms up there, bbc wales has a webcam, (currently foggy ! )
http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/northwest/sites/webcams/p...
Standard User Rockh
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 07-Apr-11 16:24:52
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Re: £53,000 to install a phone! - off topic, snowdon


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Network Rail has it's own extensive comms network. Copper, fibre and radio are all used. Trains use a form of GSM with a PMR backup.

Dave
Standard User NilSatisOptimum
(learned) Thu 07-Apr-11 17:13:24
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Re: £53,000 to install a phone!


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The cafe cost £9milion to build. I doubt very much it has BT service , very likely has broadband, be that Satellite as anyone could, be that residential or business in Wales. They could obtain a grant of up to £1000 pounds to set up, from the Wesh Assembly Government (WAG) if they happen to live in non broadband area. Not sure if this is still available however uptake was poor and W A G were pushing this again just after the turn of the year. I assume the summit falls into this category as much of the Wales does!

My views are my experiences.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 07-Apr-11 17:20:18
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Re: £53,000 to install a phone! - off topic, snowdon


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Not that the Snowdon railway has anything to do with Network Rail

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Standard User Rockh
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 07-Apr-11 17:55:57
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Re: £53,000 to install a phone! - off topic, snowdon


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
DOH smile
Should read the whole thread..

Dave
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