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What repairs or maintenance!

You'd prefer to pay the full cost of callout, investigation, tracing and repair next time your line goes crackly?

I would very much appreciate a 13 month old fix to a fault. Which has been established from the exchange 1 month in. Thats what i would prefer!

Let the buyer beware as rubbish defeats the brain.

Even radio and television could work that way.

That would free up a lot of frequencies for errrrr?. I'm not sure.

Oh, but! If you did radio and television that way, then an awful lot less internet bandwidth capacity would be needed. Now that could save a lot of money.

As an incidental, does anyone know how to get an accurate time-signal these days? The only way I know is from analogue radios. Some domestic weather stations and some watches and clocks I believe can also pick up the signal from Rugby. This is important when deciding if a bus lane can legally be used.

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The only way I know is from analogue radios. Some domestic weather stations and some watches and clocks I believe can also pick up the signal from Rugby. This is important when deciding if a bus lane can legally be used.

I would not trust any Rugby signals - they are now very, very, very inaccurate and if you receive one now it will be around 135.85 Ms out.

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and some watches and clocks I believe can also pick up the signal from Rugby.

No longer at Rugby. The new contract was awarded to VT Group and the transmitting site is now in Cumbria.

And of course income which allows BT to pay for and roll-out fibre, replace worn out cables, poles, cabinets, exchange equipment etc.
New FTTC cabinets, power cabling, running tens of thousands of miles of fibre are not provided by the 'free telecom pixies'!

If you have a gps device it will get very accurate time from the satellites. My old Palms will allow you to set the time from that time source.

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If you have a gps device it will get very accurate time from the satellites.

So accurate they're used in broadcast transmitters (e.g. DAB) for time synchronisation purposes.

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The pole being demolished, cable cut, branch bringing down the line, water ingress, business rates for poles, cabinets and buildings floor space in the exchange for the cable termination racks and more ...

I'll concede the bold highlighted, however the others you mention I have to disregard as I see absolute no evidence of this!

I have twice suffered from water entering the junction box outside my property. Considering that it's a concrete box embedded a metre or two below the ground that's hardly surprising. All the recent builds at Brackley (probably over two thirds of the properties or perhaps 3,000 houses) have these and Brackley is a fairly normal town I'd suggest that it's a common fault that Openreach will have to budget for.

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... and Sunscriber Line means a telephone line.

Is that provided by News International?

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if you receive one now it will be around 135.85 Ms out.

That's over 4 years...