Although it�s a main point that pirates are accused of, revenue is lost, jobs are lost, and the industry is crumbling. It�s not, records and attendance is up and keep going up.

Take a Spielberg with his Films, he will release a commercially appealing film for the masses every so often, these finance the films where event or story he thinks needs to be out there which the masses are not interested in, therefore will often be less/loss profit. It�s time the Film industry moved on, to what many clearly want, easy current accessible media, with a price!

Edited by NilSatisOptimum (Thu 28-Jul-11 14:37:46)

In reply to a post by AEP:

I think this is a very good ruling. Concerns such as BT should not turn a blind eye to the fact that they are aiding people to break the law. This is no more a matter of "freedom" than the freedom to drive a car after having downed a bottle of Vodka.

And what features does the law require motor vehicle manufacturers to implement to stop that?

On the one hand I agree that ISPs ought to accept their part in this but on the other (more important in my mind) hand I worry about what else is going to banned. I'd rather pay for crime and keep the freedom.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Shoplifting - those that are caught are prosecuted.

But seems people protest freedom of speech etc when accussed of copyright infringement.

Exactly, just as a shoplifter shouts "assault" if someone rugby tackles him.

They abuse the system then hide behind it's protection. It's a pity they don't realise just what happens within the piracy industry. The sharers make the stuff freely available for the pirates, who then mass produce and spend the cash on all sorts of nasty things.

Some people have money to pay for a film,
and there are some people that don't.
There are others that spend all their time on a load,
but most of us could but won't.

There are criminals out there, and angels in here
doing lots for a buck (or naught),
<COMPLETE THIS FOR TBB FAME!>

*Yet ANOTHER from Guestys "All My oWN wuRK" series.

Signed: The FC Bard-[ish].

I think the point being made is that the <insert industry> is always crying about how they're getting killed by piracy when the figures disagree.

If everyone was pirating on the scale the industries sometimes try to suggest you'd have no one buying films or music. So I wonder why the likes of iTunes seem to do so well. Or why a film can take hundreds of millions in sales in a single weekend.

Wish I could plead poverty while counting vault loads of money!

Essentially those who don't know what they're doing will get caught out.

It will just make those who pirate on a larger scale become that bit better at hiding themselves. Plenty of free tools out there that can make it basically pointless even trying to track you.

And if a site gets added, the industry and ISPs will always be lagging behind the next site that shoots up to take it's place.

Sounds like a function/feature creep on this cleanfeed nonsense though. I'm sure this was warned about at the outset.

That is true that they complain they are losing money when clearly most of the movie companies are still raking it in.

But, that does not mean that piracy is right and whilst I think the companies should change their stance and also their sales model the people pirating are still in the wrong (in my opinion).

In reply to a post by Guest_Again:

Some people have money to pay for a film,
and there are some people that don't.
There are others that spend all their time on a load,
but most of us could but won't.

There are criminals out there, and angels in here
doing lots for a buck (or naught),
but if you steal from the gov, for food, greed or love,
in the end you're bound to be caught.

© The last two lines to me.

Breach the copyright and I sue.

And what features does the law require motor vehicle manufacturers to implement to stop that?

None. Nor does it require computer manufacturers to implement measures to prevent copyright abuse.

You would better ask what features the law requires those who provide us with roads, to drive our motor vehicles on, to implement; i.e. the Government. The main feature is a Police Force, one of whose duties is to prevent such abuse.

Reminds me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkmcupFx3FQ

Even China and Saudi Arabia don't block illegal movie downloads.... Maybe because they are not Corporate Dictatorships, as we are here in the UK.