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(deleted) Thu 28-Jul-11 20:59:10
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You can't censor the internet because the people that try don't understand how it works, it doesn't belong to government it belongs to the publc
Try accessing some child pornography and see how long that argument holds water.


Why would I do that? I've no desire to
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(deleted) Thu 28-Jul-11 21:04:15
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Ummm no its about censorship.
How is it censorship if the content that is being blocked from Newzbin is available elsewhere simply by paying the correct price?

Censorship is about content, not IP addresses.


Why is it about content? Newzbin doesn't contain anything but a database of files, it doesn't hold the file its just an index. With or without Newzbin those files still exist and people will still download them because Newzbin itself doesn't have any copywritten content its just a glorified list.

Is it censorship. If some other party decides I can't access a website of course its being censored, just like when Iran censored access to Facebook etc
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(deleted) Thu 28-Jul-11 21:10:03
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In reply to a post by billford:
In reply to a post by GMAN98:
Ummm no its about censorship.
How is it censorship if the content that is being blocked from Newzbin is available elsewhere simply by paying the correct price?

Censorship is about content, not IP addresses.


Why is it about content? Newzbin doesn't contain anything but a database of files, it doesn't hold the file its just an index. With or without Newzbin those files still exist and people will still download them because Newzbin itself doesn't have any copywritten content its just a glorified list.

Is it censorship. If some other party decides I can't access a website of course its being censored, just like when Iran censored access to Facebook etc
Of course it's censorship, that's why it's using the kiddie pron system.


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(deleted) Thu 28-Jul-11 21:12:50
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It would demonstrate the paucity of your argument. The Internet may belong to the people, but the Government regulates the way it is used, particularly where criminal acts are concerned. Get used to it - that's the way civilized countries work.
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(deleted) Thu 28-Jul-11 21:14:51
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It would demonstrate the paucity of your argument. The Internet may belong to the people, but the Government regulates the way it is used, particularly where criminal acts are concerned. Get used to it - that's the way civilized countries work.
On the contrary, that's the way dictatorships work. Civilised countries work around the blocks.
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(deleted) Thu 28-Jul-11 21:15:04
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Is it a criminal act to hold a list of NZB's for material some copy written some not?

Remember its just an index it doesn't hold the files itself. Google contains links to warez sites, torrents etc etc explain the difference
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(deleted) Thu 28-Jul-11 21:18:16
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In fact just type NZB into google
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(deleted) Thu 28-Jul-11 21:19:04
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In fact just type NZB into google
http://www.google.com/search?q=the+king's+speech+nzb
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(deleted) Thu 28-Jul-11 21:24:20
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Nasty sorts of things?, do you work for the MPA?. It's purely about corporate greed nothing else, there is no 'greater good' or moral justification for this just pure greed and it simply wont work, the pirates are always 10 steps ahead of the likes of the MPA anyway, the movie industry needs to learn and adapt, stream movies online more easily and cheapily, cinema's are 20th century, even dvd/br are dated tech, this is not a fight that can be won by censorship and blocking but only by giving people a better service and not being so greedy and arrogant.

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Shoplifting - those that are caught are prosecuted.

But seems people protest freedom of speech etc when accussed of copyright infringement.


Exactly, just as a shoplifter shouts "assault" if someone rugby tackles him.

They abuse the system then hide behind it's protection. It's a pity they don't realise just what happens within the piracy industry. The sharers make the stuff freely available for the pirates, who then mass produce and spend the cash on all sorts of nasty things.
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(deleted) Thu 28-Jul-11 21:26:48
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If that's what you think, try my test of downloading some child pornography. Don't expect me to come and visit you in jail.

Civilized countries do not allow their citizens total freedom.
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