Yeah - sure.

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Yeah - sure.

Yes. I'm unable to help with your child pornography however.

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In reply to a post by Vorlon:

It's not about censorship at all, it's simply about a business getting it's rightful monies - two totally different things.

Ummm no its about censorship. Censoring that website won't get the business their rightful monies. We are just letting some overseas muppets block a domain name over here. Once we start on that road its going to be a very nasty one. You can't censor the internet because the people that try don't understand how it works, it doesn't belong to government it belongs to the publc

I think you are adding confusion to the mix, where in reality non is required.

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In reply to a post by GMAN98:

In reply to a post by Vorlon:

It's not about censorship at all, it's simply about a business getting it's rightful monies - two totally different things.

Ummm no its about censorship. Censoring that website won't get the business their rightful monies. We are just letting some overseas muppets block a domain name over here. Once we start on that road its going to be a very nasty one. You can't censor the internet because the people that try don't understand how it works, it doesn't belong to government it belongs to the publc

I think you are adding confusion to the mix, where in reality non is required.

Why are you confused it seems simple to me. All the MPA are doing is cleanfeeding a search engine, is that hard to understand? The stuff the MPA wants rid of still exists and its still easy to find

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How is it censorship if the content that is being blocked from Newzbin is available elsewhere simply by paying the correct price?

Censorship is about content, not IP addresses.

Why is it about content? Newzbin doesn't contain anything but a database of files, it doesn't hold the file its just an index. With or without Newzbin those files still exist and people will still download them because Newzbin itself doesn't have any copywritten content its just a glorified list.

Is it censorship. If some other party decides I can't access a website of course its being censored, just like when Iran censored access to Facebook etc

Of course it's censorship, that's why it's using the kiddie pron system.

Nope, a wheel can be used for many tasks, doesnt mean to say that a system/mechanism is bespoke, as in this case it's not - it's technology that servers a function.
Censorship just doesn't appear on the same page at all.

In reply to a post by GMAN98:

Why are you confused it seems simple to me. All the MPA are doing is cleanfeeding a search engine, is that hard to understand? The stuff the MPA wants rid of still exists and its still easy to find

I suspect Vorlon doesn't know what a NZB is.

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Nope, a wheel can be used for many tasks, doesnt mean to say that a system/mechanism is bespoke, as in this case it's not - it's technology that servers a function.
Censorship just doesn't appear on the same page at all.

What wheel?

In reply to a post by Spetznaz:

Nasty sorts of things?, do you work for the MPA?. It's purely about corporate greed nothing else, there is no 'greater good' or moral justification for this just pure greed and it simply wont work, the pirates are always 10 steps ahead of the likes of the MPA anyway, the movie industry needs to learn and adapt, stream movies online more easily and cheapily, cinema's are 20th century, even dvd/br are dated tech, this is not a fight that can be won by censorship and blocking but only by giving people a better service and not being so greedy and arrogant.

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Shoplifting - those that are caught are prosecuted.

But seems people protest freedom of speech etc when accussed of copyright infringement.

Exactly, just as a shoplifter shouts "assault" if someone rugby tackles him.

They abuse the system then hide behind it's protection. It's a pity they don't realise just what happens within the piracy industry. The sharers make the stuff freely available for the pirates, who then mass produce and spend the cash on all sorts of nasty things.

So are you saying it's perfectly acceptable to take a product with a monetary value from a company without paying IF you deem that their profits are too much?

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So are you saying it's perfectly acceptable to take a product with a monetary value from a company without paying IF you deem that their profits are too much?

Are NZB's products with monetary value?

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Nasty sorts of things?, do you work for the MPA?.

So you can state categorically that organised criminals over the world do not use the sharing sites to gain access to freebies, market them for cash then use the proceeds to finance other crimes such as smuggling?

In reply to a post by Spetznaz:

It's purely about corporate greed nothing else, there is no 'greater good' or moral justification for this just pure greed and it simply wont work, the pirates are always 10 steps ahead of the likes of the MPA anyway, the movie industry needs to learn and adapt, stream movies online more easily and cheapily, cinema's are 20th century, even dvd/br are dated tech, this is not a fight that can be won by censorship and blocking but only by giving people a better service and not being so greedy and arrogant.

Like I said earlier, don't buy the product if you don't want to fill their pockets. If you can't afford it, don't steal it either.