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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 14-Sep-11 16:40:50
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Re: BT slowness (Brighton Marina)


[re: nredwood] [link to this post]
 
I'm taking photo of every socket in the house, by the way the "master socket" wiring is in this order:
"Master Socket.jpg" > "Master Wiring 1.jpg" > "Master Wiring 2.jpg" then I can't see the continuation of the wire anywhere else in my room or either outside the room.

At last I managed to get info from telnet, here is the info:
"adslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: ShowtimeRetrain Reason: 8000
Channel: FAST, Upstream rate = 803 Kbps, Downstream rate
Link Power State: L0
Mode: ADSL2
Channel: Fast
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 6.3 6.1
Attn(dB): 53.0 31.8
Pwr(dBm): 0.0 12.7
Max(Kbps): 2932 816
Rate (Kbps): 1891 803
G.dmt framing
K: 60(0) 25
R: 0 0
S: 1 1
D: 1 1
ADSL2 framing
MSGc: 59 12
B: 59 24
M: 1 1
T: 1 4
R: 0 0
S: 0.9979 0.9852
L: 481 203
D: 1 1
Counters
SF: 29317 27950
SFErr: 2360 0
RS: 0 0
RSCorr: 0 0
RSUnCorr: 0 0

HEC: 599 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 2121293 900398
Data Cells: 28749 28469
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 414 0
SES: 0 132
UAS: 38 0
AS: 476

INP: 0.00 0.00
PER: 16.21 17.73
delay: 0.24 0.24
OR: 32.06 8.12

Bitswap: 67 0

Total time = 3 min 53 sec
SF = 29317
CRC = 2360
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 414
Latest 1 day time = 3 min 53 sec
SF = 29317
CRC = 2360
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 414
Latest 15 minutes time = 3 min 53 sec
SF = 29317
CRC = 2360
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 414
Previous 15 minutes time = 0 sec
SF = 0
CRC = 0
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
SF = 0
CRC = 0
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 0
Showtime Drop Reason: 8000
Last Retrain Reason: 8000"
Standard User nredwood
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 14-Sep-11 16:44:19
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Re: BT slowness (Brighton Marina)


[re: XRaySpeX] [link to this post]
 
Appears to have done the trick judging by this

http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/general/t/4043780-r...

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Wed 14-Sep-11 17:09:16
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Re: BT slowness (Brighton Marina)


[re: deleted] [link to this post]
 
How come you now got TELNET working when you couldn't before? What changed?

You have an extremely high CRCs and nearly every second is an Error Second (ES). So you definitely have a wiring issue and you should continue your investigation with your wiring installation.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 17 Meg Untweaked 19 Meg Tweaked WBC


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Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Wed 14-Sep-11 17:11:29
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Re: BT slowness (Brighton Marina)


[re: nredwood] [link to this post]
 
I know! If only we knew the diff between what he said and what he did smile

I've spent ages trying to get him to run this.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 17 Meg Untweaked 19 Meg Tweaked WBC

Edited by XRaySpeX (Wed 14-Sep-11 17:12:32)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 14-Sep-11 17:11:36
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Re: BT slowness (Brighton Marina)


[re: nredwood] [link to this post]
 
I have taken pictures of all sockets in the house.
The house has 4 sockets total and we have 3 floors in the house. There are no sockets in first floor, 3 sockets in second floor and 1 socket in third floor.

Note: Only the left side socket of the image "Dual Socket (Where filter is connected now) - Second Floor" and the "Socket Behind TV That had Doubler - Second Floor" are working now. None of the other sockets work.

And yes, I've done telnet thanks to "nredwood". Previous times the login wouldn't work but it somehow did this time after I tried again with his instructions.

Download Link: http://meshign.ir/sockets.rar

Edited by deleted (Wed 14-Sep-11 17:13:23)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 14-Sep-11 17:26:18
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Re: BT slowness (Brighton Marina)


[re: deleted] [link to this post]
 
You have another box that is joining two bits of wire together that we cannot see.

Dual Socket (Where filter is connected now) - Second Floor - cable in this socket may be the main line, hard to tell
Previously Identified as Master Socket - Second Floor - no extensions leaving this socket, but without seeing the socket dismantled completely, i.e. what is connected to the A and B terminals hard to say.

Based on what I can see, every socket you have taken a picture of has different type of wiring, i.e. the cable cores do not appear to match each other, and also with multiple sockets you would expect multiple connections to pins 2 and 5 in at least one socket.

Thus you have something that is joining all these wires together, a small white back e.g. http://www.run-it-direct.co.uk/images/bt78a.JPG

Your scenario sounds not uncommon as its probably star wired, and thus may be picking up more noise than it could be, if wired optimally. To solve this you need to find where for example the other end of the wires in the third floor socket and the socket behind the TV actually go...they must go somewhere.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User nredwood
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 14-Sep-11 17:29:05
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Re: BT slowness (Brighton Marina)


[re: deleted] [link to this post]
 
Is the socket labelled in the pics as "Previously identified as master socket" the socket you didn't get a dial tone with? ( need to connect phone without filter)

If yes, it looks as if "Dual Socket (Where filter connected now)" is definitely your master and is an old type NTE5 as it has capacitors

I would start off by disconnecting the ring wire (very carefully) i.e the wire connected to no 3 on all sockets where present.
This may help

http://www.beusergroup.co.uk/technotes/index.php?tit...

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 14-Sep-11 17:31:14
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Re: BT slowness (Brighton Marina)


[re: nredwood] [link to this post]
 
To add, when people say disconnect the ring wire, they mean simply lift it carefully from pin 3, this way it can be reconnected using the correct tool if need be later.

Also when fiddling with the wiring best to have the ADSL modem disconnected to avoid automatic systems thinking your line is performing badly and slowing you down further

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 14-Sep-11 17:39:02
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Re: BT slowness (Brighton Marina)


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
If you check Master Wiring 1 & 2, you'll see that the continuation of previously identified as "master socket" goes into the thing that joins the wires, or atleast it looks like that.

If I tell BT to send an engineer to check these stuff, they can identify the problem and fix it, right? Because i'm not really into these things and have no knowledge about them myself.

Actually, I followed the wiring under the socket behind the TV and it lead me to this thing that I don't know what it is!
http://meshign.ir/Lead.jpg

UPDATE: Yes. I can't get a dial tone from "Previously identified as master socket" and I have connected phone directly to it without any filters. Can I call an engineer from BT to come do these things? I dont really have any knowledge of these things and to be honest i'm afraid to unwire it.

Edited by deleted (Wed 14-Sep-11 17:45:14)

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(deleted) Wed 14-Sep-11 17:50:06
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Re: BT slowness (Brighton Marina)


[re: deleted] [link to this post]
 
By the way, it seems that my dual socket has nothing connected on pin 3. Is that correct as I see myself in image?

And can you please tell me exactly from wich sockets do I have to disconnect the pin 3 wire according to the images provided?

Edited by deleted (Wed 14-Sep-11 17:56:35)

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