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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 01-Oct-11 00:27:53
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Re: Having a bit of a nightmare with O2 BB!


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If you look closely, the ADSL cable plug is smaller. The connections I believe are in the centre of both plug and socket, and although I have never tried it myself many people I respect have said it works. It certainly will not do any harm to try, as long as you don't force anything.

The faceplate I linked to is on the site you get it from. You will probably find similar on the Clarity site if that is where you were thinking of getting a replacement NTE5.

Neither of these suggestions will improve the connection, just look neater than a dangly filter.

Point 3, re ADSL2, there is a fair chance ADSL2 will give a slightly higher connection speed than the other two, and it will certainly give better stability than ADSL2+. I used it all the time on O2, with similar stats to yours.

With the O2 box you have to telnet those commands into it, as per that link.

I'm not sure what you mean when you say the 8am stats are better than in the evening, if you haven't done a reconnection.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 01-Oct-11 00:36:06
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Having never used telnet, I just completed point 3, here's the results:


Uptime: 0 days, 0:00:56
DSL Type: G.992.3 annex A
Maximum Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1,230 / 9,033
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1,235 / 7,152
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [kB/kB]: 0.00 / 0.00
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12.0 / 19.0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 30.0 / 49.0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 3.0 / 3.5
Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / BDCM
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): 0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 10 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 542
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 20,843 / 0

The difference is incredible compared to a few days ago, and to think according to all the websites the most I should possibly be getting in 4mb.

As i used the 'save all' command at the end, does this mean I don't have to worry about it jumping back to ADSL2+?

I'm not too bothered about having the filter there tbh as the router and connection to the wall etc are hidden by the sofa.

When I say the connection speeds tend to be higher in a morning, I'm basing that solely off a quick speed test using speedtest.net (not very reliable I know).

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 01-Oct-11 01:13:15
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Interesting that you have a 3.5dB noise margin. Odd even!

Yes, the save all stops it reverting to ADSL2+.

You will probably find a reconnection in the morning is faster. There is more noise/interference when it is dark. But you are about at the best possible now - mainly due to the wiring changes.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 01-Oct-11 01:17:15
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Awesome, thanks for your help.

Knowing not a great deal about what these stats mean, whats odd about 3.5db?
Standard User burakkucat
(member) Sat 01-Oct-11 05:04:09
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In reply to a post by a2hgo:
Well proof is in the pudding as they say. Spent an hour this afternoon running a wire from the XNTE to the socket in the living room, all done neatly, proper job. Anyway here's a screenshot of the router stats:

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/4858/photolol.png

Basically a [significant] increase in speed. Can't be much happier with that!
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 01-Oct-11 10:22:34
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Here's the stats from this morning,


Uptime: 0 days, 9:43:36
DSL Type: G.992.3 annex A
Maximum Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1,239 / 9,509
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1,235 / 7,152
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [kB/kB]: 0.00 / 0.00
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12.0 / 18.5
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 30.0 / 49.0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 3.5 / 5.0

Looks as although the max bandwidth has gone up half a meg, the sync speed is still the same. I'm therefore guessing that I've reached the limit of what O2 will allow me to get out of the line! Still very happy with the results.
Standard User epyon
(member) Sat 01-Oct-11 10:49:43
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Yeah for 49.0 Attenuation

7mbps sync speed is decent.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 01-Oct-11 10:52:37
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Very good sync speed for that attenuation. I don't think O2 is limiting you, just your SNR margin is at the limit.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 01-Oct-11 12:17:01
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You need to re-sync in daylight. It never goes up by itself.

The oddity about the 3.5dB margin is that the sync-time default on O2 is 6dB, unless it has recently changed.

Unfortunately a 6dB margin would slow you down by about 1Mbps connection, though only about 800kbps actual throughput.

The 3.5dB margin accounts for the higher than normal connection speed that others have commented on.

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Sat 01-Oct-11 13:04:07
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In reply to a post by a2hgo:
Looks as although the max bandwidth has gone up half a meg
That's cuz NM has gone up by 1.5 dB, allowing greater leeway for it to be reduced without the line disconnecting.

You should not just take readings during daylight, but force a reboot then, so as to get max benefit.

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