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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 30-Nov-11 19:13:43
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Re: The 10 day training period ...


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They may be lucky and have very little cross talk in their area.

It being an Annex M service, it may be behaving a little oddly, and misreporting.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk

Edited by MrSaffron (Wed 30-Nov-11 19:16:47)

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 30-Nov-11 19:15:43
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Re: The 10 day training period ...


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MTU tweaking is not really about raw speed, but more about some sites not working at all.

ADSL2+ estimates if the 28dB is correct are 14000Kbps to 16900Kbps for connection speed. So line is performing beyond expectations if the numbers are correct that you posted.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 30-Nov-11 19:18:42
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Re: The 10 day training period ...


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The throughput may be a factor of a router that does not support Annex M, i.e. the negotiation and data presented by the router on screen may be wrong.

I would recommend getting an ADSL2+ Annex M capable router running on the line, and see how things pan out.

Annex M sacrifies downstream speed to gain about double the upstream speed, and this may have confused a modem that does not understand Annex M. I have seen some ADSL2+ Annex A only devices not work on lines where Annex M is active.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 30-Nov-11 20:15:13
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Re: The 10 day training period ...


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My Annex M modem is in the post and should be with me tommorow.

I think I'm being penalised here, just changed the MTU and on re-sync ...

Downstream Rate: 18001 kbps
Upstream Rate: 1045 kbps
Channel: Interleaved

Speedtest result: 6.7Mb/0.7Mb

It was previosuly set to FAST, so I'm guessing DLM is doing something silly here? Looking at the modem stats, there has been 6 re-syncs in the past 24hrs (is this normal?)

Edited by deleted (Wed 30-Nov-11 20:16:19)

Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Wed 30-Nov-11 20:26:28
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Re: The 10 day training period ...


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Based on the att. what would you expect in terms of speed?

18 meg or less. Are you aware that when you do hang an annex M router off of it you will lose more downstream sync rate to provide the increased upstream ?

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 30-Nov-11 20:28:10
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Re: The 10 day training period ...


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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
Based on the att. what would you expect in terms of speed?

18 meg or less. Are you aware that when you do hang an annex M router off of it you will lose more downstream sync rate to provide the increased upstream ?


Yes, well aware. I guess its worth waiting for my new modem, as anything with this one could just be producing erroneous results due to a lack of Annex M support.

Speed is down to 6Mb/0.6Mb - this is dire!

To think I'm moving from a 10MB/10MB leased line to Annex M ADSL frown No, its not out of choice, but a fix until EFM is installed at the new site (90 day lead time).

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 30-Nov-11 21:15:59
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Re: The 10 day training period ...


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Sync Speed is the Dictator! The 10-day training period can only affect that and as your speed is exceptional, it could only worsen it frown. The 10-day period has no influence on your actual throughput, which is abysmal for some reason.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 19 Meg WBC
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 30-Nov-11 21:26:41
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21CN WBC seems to flip-flop between Interleaved and Fast Path and, for me at least, Interleaved is about 0.5 Meg faster @ 19.3 Meg and is less error/discon prone.

I 'd consider 6 re-syncs in 24hrs to be excessive.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 19 Meg WBC
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 01-Dec-11 08:19:54
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Re: The 10 day training period ...


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The influencing of sync speed continues for years, not just the ten days too

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 01-Dec-11 21:33:15
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Re: The 10 day training period ...


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Okay, day 4 ...

No re-syncs in the past 24 hours, still on the 2700HGV until the Zyxel arrives.

Running the speedtest, a much healthier ....

Download speedachieved during the test was - 14501 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 4000-21000 Kbps.
Your DSL Connection Rate :18000 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 1074 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 15881 Kbps
Upload speed achieved during the test was - 892 Kbps
Additional Information:
Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 1074 Kbps

But that was after a bit of a prompt to the ISP to see what the story was, so this could have been something at their end.

Looks a lot more promising to say the least. Lets see what I get on Annex M in the next few days ... smile
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