Those are still twisted, not very tightly together which is how twisting minimises interference but you can see the twists are still there.

We just had ours replaced and relocated.
BT quoted me £130 for the move plus £75 for the socket.
I cancelled that and got it done through my ISP at £130 plus VAT.

18 years ago, a BT engineer told us that the box in the garage was leading up to the master socket in the main bedroom. He installed two extensions from that.

Last week, the engineer that came found the box in the garage to be an extension, but wasn't sure where it came from.
It was as he was preparing to lead the new cable out of the garage and around the outside of the house, into the room where required, that he found the actual cable where it comes in (opposite wall to the box in the garage). We surmised that the cable must have been led under the garage floor by the builder! He disabled the box leading into the house and to extensions, and now we just have a master socket - no extensions required.

It made his job easier and gave us a far better solution. Immediately had more speed & no connection drops.

Maybe the pictures are deceiving but they dont look very twisted in reality to me.
Not sure what the twists per M is for standard phone cable though (coming from an aircraft electrics background there doesnt appear to be much twisting of pairs!).

It is a fairly low twist rate, and each is different. I have the number somewhere but cannot locate them.

You sure it is an RF3 ? They look the same as a BT80 or 78. It's the little black cylinder inside that differentiates the look of it.

'Reduces chance of REIN ' Nah, never seen it clear one up yet.

'you could get master sockets with this built in? '

No, you rip the guts out of one, and it will fit in the back off the NTE back box.

Couldn't you just fit a RF3 Junction box to the incoming BT wire and then run a new length of cable to a new Master socket sited pretty much wherever you wanted it?

I could but it would be run around the hall and into the lounge and i've redecorated the lounge in the last 18 months and want a neater job.

Yes its an RF3, it says it on the box inside and the interior matches whats shown on the internet.

If i was to replace the RF3 -> Master socket cable that runs through the hallway would you use CW1308?
http://www.maplin.co.uk/telephone-cable-type-cw1308-66

I guess using either 2 pairs or 3 pairs doesnt matter? (only 1 pair is used anyway)

Or am i better going for :- http://cpc.farnell.com/pro-power/2-pair-100m/2-pair-...

Reading this thread it seems the Maplin stuff might not be up to scratch...

Edited by deleted (Sat 07-Jan-12 11:53:19)