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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 28-Jan-12 09:33:25
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Re: New max rate?


[re: Banger] [link to this post]
 
A lot of routers calculate the Max Rate using the real specification of ADSL. That says 12Mbps. For whatever reason BT Wholesale cap it at 8128Mbps, which isn't even 8Mbps.

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Standard User bobble_bob
(experienced) Sat 28-Jan-12 09:54:33
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Ive no doubt you're right. I wasnt aware a non adsl2+ router would work with adsl2+. I asssumed it wouldnt even connect, hence the problems
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 28-Jan-12 10:00:04
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Cheers.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 28-Jan-12 12:17:36
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Re: New max rate?


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
You've been reading wiki's again.

ADSL was always 8Meg limit, ADSL2 is 12Meg, just that it has been around long enough in its pre-standard format that its deployment in some countries meant it was just called ADSL.

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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Sat 28-Jan-12 14:24:16
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I wasnt aware a non adsl2+ router would work with adsl2+ [[i]sic]

You won't get ADSL2+ speeds so in one sense it doesn't work but you can manually try and make it sync on G.DMT (ADSL1 on a CN exchange) if it doesn't occur automatically because of the firmware within the router.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 28-Jan-12 16:06:15
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The exchange DSLAM/MSAN will train down to what it sees at the other end.

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Standard User iand
(experienced) Sat 28-Jan-12 16:58:46
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lines are backwards compatible. Exchange will ask for adsl2+, then adsl2, then ADSL until something connects. The end user does not need to change their router, but even so most have been adsl2+ compatible for years, so I would expect yours to be.

IanD

Edited by iand (Sat 28-Jan-12 16:59:53)

Standard User ukhardy07
(committed) Sat 28-Jan-12 17:33:07
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It wouldn't cause problems

Whilst the ADSL 2 + incompatible router was in use, it wouldn't use this

As soon as a compatible router was plugged in it would presumably switch to it.

It will recognise the router doesn't support it and switch to whatever accordingly.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 29-Jan-12 00:14:57
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Ian and ukhardy smile

I think bobble accepted what I said, effectively the same as the two of you have now said to him.

It's the later Anon poster who still got it wrong, when he apparently contradicted me.

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Standard User ukhardy07
(committed) Sun 29-Jan-12 00:20:36
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Sorry to repeat you buddy! Had a quick scan through

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