Tenby (locally to me) has been yellow for (too) many months already and is now over a month PAST its fix ETA for its Red status- Haverfordwest is also yellow and Milford Haven is Red and has been in and out of yellow since last year although that now has a fix date of mid April (we'll see if that one also slips shall we?)which completes the set of the 4 largest exchanges in the county.

I am not confident that BTw will schedule a fix date for SWPM any time soon, they seem happy to let end users suffer for several months before they set a date for a fix - which guarantees nothing - see Tenby - so it looks to me that BTw are reluctant to spend money where they have no opposition that people can migrate away from an under resourced network. Considering the price of IPSC compared to WBC then I think we deserve better than this. It isn't a unforeseeable, its BT starving some areas of resource while they throw more and more at areas that have services which are already better, our service is deliberately allowed to fall away.

Some exchanges here have had at least 2 WBC RFS dates published then withdrawn - makes you wonder what is going on! no wonder we feel second class

Edited by deleted (Mon 27-Feb-12 08:42:34)

Talk Talk now live at Hwest, Milford Haven and one or two others in the county.

They were in Castle Square Hwest on Saturday signing people up, may take Hwest out of amber.

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The exchanges you quote are all forecast to have Talktalk unbundling, from other posts they are now live. BT is most likely not wasting the money on enhancing the VPS 'knowing' that 400+ people will move to the LLU service. ( Min to cost in is 3-400 customers and talktalk appear to LLU when they have this sort of number on the BTw product).

From BTs perspective not doing anything on these is good economic sense as any money spent would have been wasted after the migrations have occurred.

As far as BTw are concerned you are getting a tourist class service because your ISP is only paying a tourist class price. (less than £10) and these exchanges are borderline to be profitable, (remember they are regulated prices for BT).

Have to see how long it takes BT to upgrade the PM VPs now they are yellow if it is not going to be unbundled.

Certainly seems to be something odd if the exchange is that big with no LLU or WBC yet, there must be some good reason for all Industry. (Is the building small? or the power infrastructure in the area difficult to upgrade making any new equipment (LLU or BT) extremely expensive to do?

Until recently it was possible to see the list of planned exchange unbundling on the Talktalk site but that has now been changed. when I last saw mine was targeted but no firm date while all the other decent sized exchanges had firm RFS dates. When the talktalk dates were up on Samknows (they have all since disappeared) Pembroke wasn't on that list either. Neyland was on both and I'm waiting on a friend to come back from holiday as he is a TT customer (ex Tiscali) for phone and broadband so maybe he may be able to confirm for me what has happened over that way as he has been waiting for me to tell him if I hear that his exchange has gone unbundled.

Pembroke Dock was built circa 1959 it has some room for a small extension or they could build upwards. maybe they cant find it... Google maps has it in the wrong place. Or maybe they are having a "lock in" at the pub across the road lol

Edited by deleted (Mon 27-Feb-12 12:05:54)

That seems strange because most ISPs cite the higher cost of IPSC as the reason for less data allowance/higher costs of IPSC exchange areas, similarly they claim to make minimal amounts off of each customer, in my case the service costs near £20 per month for a 30 Gb peak allowance. I know that there was a small reduction recently in the wholesale cost of IPSC but that didnt reverse the 24% hike put in by BTw a couple of years back. Im sure I saw a wholesale figure quoted for IPSC connections higher than the price you cite but cant find it now.

I would not have thought Power was an issue as the area has been developed in only the last few years, previously the exchange was one of the last buildings as you left town, now once you pass that there are 2 new business parks that have been established on the old Tip which required new power infrastructure to be laid, Given the retail park that has grown up next to the exchange in the last 20 years I would tend to believe that extra power infrastructure was also laid in for that

It remains that a loss of more than 5 Mbps during peak times is an unacceptable degradation.