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(deleted) Tue 24-Apr-12 11:19:35
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Re: New build home with External NTE - best advice?


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Most alarm systems are basic, no filter built-in. In fact you would be surprised by the number of shoddy installs where an alarm has been wired into the back of an NTE-5 without any filtering.
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Sadly it is all to common for an electrician to do the installation of telephone wiring without any understanding of the need for twisted pair cable. They just go to their usual electrical wholesaler and buy a drum of 'telephone cable' and thats it. Electricians are trained in things like how to calculate the correct electrical cable for the load and types of earthing arrangements and so to most electricians connecting a low voltage telephone line is nothing more than making electrical connections. The very idea that they have to consider interference is just not something they have had to think about.

So while I agree that if the builders have not used twisted pair telephone cable it would be something to take up with them for not doing the job properly I would't assume that means that the mains wiring would be sub standard as unlike telephone wiring mains wiring is governed by a set of safety standards that all electricians are required to meet.
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Given the answer for many will be paying Openreach to sort out wiring, the guidelines are clear

http://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/network/develop...

Wonder how many know about the plastic divider if in same trunking as mains. I would expect a developer to check this sort of thing to avoid comeback under guarantee at a later date.

The rise of ethernet wiring also means that the good electricians will be cross training too, so should understand the differences and importance.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.


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Most electricians should know about the separation of mains and low voltage cables as it is part of the ieee regulations.
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Going_Digital

I know this is a long shot mate, but could you checkup on sales at adslnation.com

Order #54925

I placed an order for a xte-2005 and rj11 cable early yesterday and its stuck in pending at the moment, the phone number just gives a busy tone and no response from email...

I was expecting fairly quick processing and dispatch but can't get hold of anyone at the moment frown

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(member) Wed 25-Apr-12 20:36:49
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Would this image be correct in providing the best possible broadband to the house?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12843960/External%20NTE.jpg

1. That picture of the External NTE didn't have a ring wire attached in 3, I assume it's fine to _not_ connect it to my new NTE5 socket if I do see a ring wire attached to 3 (at the XNTE) when I move in?

2. I couldn't find any components that I'm told is recommended to remove (bell capacitor, resistor, surge supressor) in all the NTE5 images I've looked for in Google, is it hidden under a layer in that image of the socket?

3. Is it possible to push through a new CW1308 wire into that black rubber ring to the premises, to save me needing to drill a hole?

Thanks again smile

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In reply to a post by Aaron_01:
Would this image be correct in providing the best possible broadband to the house?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12843960/External%20NTE.jpg

1. That picture of the External NTE didn't have a ring wire attached in 3, I assume it's fine to _not_ connect it to my new NTE5 socket if I do see a ring wire attached to 3 (at the XNTE) when I move in?

2. I couldn't find any components that I'm told is recommended to remove (bell capacitor, resistor, surge supressor) in all the NTE5 images I've looked for in Google, is it hidden under a layer in that image of the socket?

3. Is it possible to push through a new CW1308 wire into that black rubber ring to the premises, to save me needing to drill a hole?

Thanks again smile


Yes the basic idea is to connect 2 and 5 to B and A on the new NTE5 you fit inside, How your cables run I cannot say, but you may be in luck and it goes straight through the wall to the inside socket and you can pull through a a new cable leaving you lots on the inside to connect to the filter face plate voice extension terminals.

If you PM me I send you a NTE-5 with the componets removed and a link fitted so you can run the ring wire from the external unit if you wish., this is optional as if any of your phones need a ring line the filter faceplate will provide it.

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Is the external NTE5 a picture from your house? Because the wiring looks like CW1308 and the pair is used correctly

In short no need for new cable you can use the white one that is there.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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It looks like the one on the Kitz site, but as you say he may be in luck and have enough slack
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If you are going to use a filtered faceplate on an NTE5, DO NOT connect a ring wire to terminal 3 in the external NTE.
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