Agreed. And quite likely.

I would only use it for approximations . . .

Ok,

If you can help a bit more, i have taken the sockets to bits and got a couple of pictures so show what i am up against!!

The first picture is of the socket where the Cat 5 fly lead plugs into:

Cat 5 Plug Wiring

The second one is where the Cat 5 cable connects to the BT Openreach box

BT Openreach Box Wiring

Just to put everything into perspective, this is what it looks like once its all assembled and working:

Assembled Plugs & BT Box

What do you make of this setup? Anything that can be done to make things better??


Much appreciated for any help!

Edited by deleted (Sun 10-Jun-12 22:37:11)

Hmm . . . A very, er, interesting set-up.

Just to confirm that I understand correctly, your first picture is the rear of the RJ45 socket that is labelled (what looks like) "D7/10A"?

I don't suppose you know from where that purple Cat5e cable originates? There must be a multi-pair Openreach service cable entering the building, which should be terminated at a distribution point. Hopefully that purple cable comes directly from the distribution point.

Perhaps you should ask your Management Company to show you where the Openreach service cable enters the building. (Remember to take your camera with you.)

I am surprised at what the installing Openreach engineer has done within your flat. It certainly is rather novel.

To be perfectly honest, overall, I do not think there is much else you can do.

I'm afraid getting to the distribution point is probably a no go.

The Openreach box is an after thought... Originally the Cat5 port should have had a small "dongle" to convert it to the standard BT telephone plug, but a cock up in the wiring prevented its use. The Openreach box was a "quick fix" to get service.

You know what, i think i am just going to leave things for the time being and see what happens when my line goes live and its pumping out ADSL2+. Doing anymore now is probably academic and results probably wont change.

A wise move, which I endorse. See what you get when transferred to the ADSL2+ service and then, if necessary, continue the investigations.

Perhaps you will update this thread with the new statistics, please, after the service has been upgraded?

I most certainly will - Activation is due sometime on Wednesday

Thank you.

As promised (and a lot sooner than i anticipated) my broadband has gone live. These are the figures after about 30mins of being live:

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 10067 kbps 1123 kbps
Line Attenuation 23.5 db 10.3 db
Noise Margin 5.9 db 5.8 db


Now, from my understanding, although at the moment these figures do not look particularly good, the line is in "training" mode? Which i believe is for the next 10 days or so?? And it should steadily increase over this time if i have read right.

What do you guys reckon?

Not very promising

the NM is already as low as 6 db, the default level at which the previous estimates applied, and you are only getting 10 Meg, Would expect NM to be much higher at this stage.

Can you tell from your router whether you are on ADSL2+ and not just ADSL2? Perhaps its Telnet interface?

All bad.

I'm afraid I disagree with the earlier posters about your previous stats. On ADSL you should have been on either 8128kbps or 7616kbps, rock solid, and with a high noise margin. The figures you had suggested a considerable problem somewhere.The farina report did suggest its estimate based (mainly) on the attenuation could be screwed because of the low ADSL speed. It is.

As for speed increasing over the 10 days, you can forget that one. In the very early days of ADSL Max it might have been true, but that system died long ago. The main culprits in keeping the myth alive are BT Retail and Wholesale. All other ISPs using BT Wholesale just have to go along with it .

As 5km said, your wiring needs sorting out. If that's impossible, then you're stuck. At least you have a lot more than you had, and a decent upstream.