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Standard User Deadbeat
(knowledge is power) Sat 04-Aug-12 17:27:42
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I thought that TT had moved away from requiring login details for authentication?
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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 04-Aug-12 17:29:33
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It seems not in this case, the new login details were their phone [email protected] and a randomly generated new password which they gave over the phone.

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Standard User Deadbeat
(knowledge is power) Sat 04-Aug-12 17:34:31
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The telephone number has, as I recall, always been the "username" although both user and pass can now be left blank. Maybe he's connecting/authing via Tiscali etc equipment.

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Standard User Pipexer
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 04-Aug-12 17:41:13
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They were both originally using [email protected] (same as their email) yet when were moved onto LLU last week (new installation at the exchange) this no longer worked. Blank credentials were not working when I tried. Who knows how their systems are set up - you could speculate they don't even know themselves properly which is why they were never informed of new login details.

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Standard User Andrue
(knowledge is power) Sat 04-Aug-12 18:59:21
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In reply to a post by Pipexer:
Just noticed your sig - What happened to Beekle?
A combination of old age and - perhaps - a feather cyst finally getting the better of him. He nearly made it to his ninth birthday so he didn't have a bad innings. At least he was mobile right up until the end even if he did sway and pant a bit when he landed.

Thanks for asking smile

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Just because he could. RIP.

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Standard User Deadbeat
(knowledge is power) Sat 04-Aug-12 19:29:57
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..... you could speculate they don't even know themselves properly.....

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 04-Aug-12 20:07:37
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In reply to a post by Deadbeat:
I thought that TT had moved away from requiring login details for authentication?


Yes this is correct but it depends on the router. My Billion 7800N doesn't require any TT login details, yet the Linksys X2000 and Draytek 120 do. I guess there must be some sort of 'autosensing' built into the Billion.
Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Sat 04-Aug-12 23:11:11
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Seen this thread ?

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(deleted) Sat 04-Aug-12 23:33:23
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But with respect you can't ignore the issue of the BT engineer who came round and did all these works and then said there were other issues when it was an auth problem all along. This just causes even more problems! Unless there was some other hidden issue with the line but I am not aware of this and the connection was fine, physically, before and after.


Well to fill in some blanks... When an Openreach engineer receives an SFI2 task from a service provider his remit is basically to ensure the line is firstly performing within its specs and then to get the router to sync up (green sync light) - authentication issues are not within his remit, if the correct username/password are provided by the service provider he can try to input these but if not or they are incorrect there is no obligation in fact I can say had on heart that I have never been given these details by TalkTalk in the job notes. While there is the provision for an engineer to setup or repair a routers setup this is often NOT authorised by the service provider (SP/CP's are charged for any completed SFI2 modules which includes end-user equipment).

Part of the SFI2 task can include testing the end-users (your friends) internal wiring/extension socket past the main linebox and there is a requirement to get the service working as fast and error free as possible, this can include replacing or fixing internal wiring, but again this has nothing to do with authentication issues and everything to do with complying with the mandate of the task outlined by his customer 'TalkTalk'.

When the engineer stated "there were other issues" he wasn't lying or wrong, indeed there were other issues stopping your friend getting online, issues it would seem the service provider had not empowered him to fix.
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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 04-Aug-12 23:35:36
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Seen this thread ?

Yep smile

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