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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 04-Oct-12 14:38:19
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[re: MHC] [link to this post]
 
What ever happened to the 10 day fortnight?

Don't people work a full week anymore?

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Standard User MHC
(legend) Thu 04-Oct-12 15:00:00
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Because for overtime the premium comes from the overheads in the normal rates charged as the additional costs are not there for overtime - management supervision, pension, insurance, vehicle capital cost &c.


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Standard User greenglide
(committed) Thu 04-Oct-12 15:00:40
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I work a 10 day fortnight which is made up of two five day weeks!

This isnt for BT though.

I assume the seven day fortnights are either more than 7.5 hour days or include Saturdays, Sundays night times etc - I wouldnt fancy that anymore.

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Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Thu 04-Oct-12 15:07:13
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In reply to a post by greenglide:
I work a 10 day fortnight which is made up of two five day weeks!

This isnt for BT though.

I assume the seven day fortnights are either more than 7.5 hour days or include Saturdays, Sundays night times etc - I wouldnt fancy that anymore.


Those who work in the transport industry can work 6 days a week and shifts can be upto 15hrs ,(Heavy goods) 3.5t van drivers even longer hours. And they (bt engineers) think that their wage is poor!!! they want to try working a full week every week then their wage will increase and so will productivity, little wonder that they are so far behind with installs ect,

Edited by tommy45 (Thu 04-Oct-12 15:08:33)

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 04-Oct-12 15:44:43
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Yep. Dead easy being up a telegraph pole in a freezing cold wind trying to fix a connection. Or even trying to sort out very fiddly wiring in a cabinet in driving rain on a cold day next to a main road, trying to stop the rain getting in there, and dealing with finding a working pair by talking to control with thundering lorries within 1-3 metres of you.

Bad enough in decent weather.

Not a job I could do, nor you I imagine. Nearly all of them are great people and friendly as well.

Which is not to detract from the damn dangerous hours lots of lorry drivers have to do, despite the legislation. I just object to your saying OR engineers have it easy.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 04-Oct-12 16:04:10
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More contractors coming in to make up the numbers.
I dont see this option adding significantly to the workload. The DSO escalation path has always been there in addition the expedite process.
BTW, I think 9 day fortnights went with transformation and the mojority are on 4 day weeks, with a minority on 3 and 5 day patterns.
Standard User R0NSKI
(committed) Thu 04-Oct-12 16:11:49
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But what hours do they work?

PS. I'm a commercial workshop manger, used to be a fitter (still do get my hands dirty) so have been on the side of motorways working on lorrys with lorrys thundering by. Not nice working outside in the cold/wet/snow so I try to stay in the warm these days smile

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(deleted) Thu 04-Oct-12 16:23:55
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36 hour basic working week.
Standard User MHC
(legend) Thu 04-Oct-12 16:45:38
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I recently had to deal with some working 9 day fortnights - there seem to be pockets that are still in that pattern. As I mentioned, one I know is in a team which works 07:30 to 19:00 with a 1 hour lunch break on a 3 & 4 pattern.


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(Unregistered)Thu 04-Oct-12 17:11:06
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Also with winter coming in they will have to start and finish a shift in the dark.

I assume that they are rules about working in the dark and most likely this is why they need more bodies as they actual amount of work they can do is limited by the conditions.
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