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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 26-Nov-12 13:32:53
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Re: What are the odds my exchange will get ADSL2


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
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talktalk covers 94% of households with 2,400 exchanges, leaving 3,000 to cover last 6% which is 1.5m

BT Wholesale is way behind at around 80 to 85% coverage


I'm a little confused? Surely BT is every exchange? Or is that just BT and then BT wholesale is something else?

Just be nice for someone to come along and unbundle and for BT to push it to ADSL2+
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(deleted) Mon 26-Nov-12 13:43:07
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Re: What are the odds my exchange will get ADSL2


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I'd like to see what size of exchange is the threshold people think would be liable ADSL2+ tongue


950 aha
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 26-Nov-12 13:53:30
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Re: What are the odds my exchange will get ADSL2


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In reply to a post by brandscill:
I'm a little confused? Surely BT is every exchange?
Yes, BT owns all exchanges. It just that they have not upgraded all exchanges to 21CN ADSL2+; some, like yours, are only 20CN ADSL Max.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 19 Meg WBC


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Standard User ian72
(knowledge is power) Mon 26-Nov-12 13:53:32
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Re: What are the odds my exchange will get ADSL2


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Mr S was talking about percentage ADSL2+ coverage. Even ADSL itself is not available at all exchanges (there are 3 not very many miles from you in West Sussex that don't have ADSL).

Have to hope that BDUK funding covers your exchange but as West Sussex hasn't yet let their tender it may be a little while before you know.
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 26-Nov-12 13:55:10
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Re: What are the odds my exchange will get ADSL2


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there are 3 not very many miles from you in West Sussex that don't have ADSL
Please name one?

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 19 Meg WBC
Standard User Gadget
(committed) Mon 26-Nov-12 14:53:04
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Re: What are the odds my exchange will get ADSL2


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http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/SDSTMRD
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(deleted) Mon 26-Nov-12 18:43:34
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Re: What are the odds my exchange will get ADSL2


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Not a lot of room for improvement there in the downstream, though possibly a few hundred kbps. An absolute maximum of about 5200kbps.

However, an increase of 32kbps would get you to a 4000kbps IP Profile instead of 3500kbps. That's what determines your maximum downstream throughput, and that would be a 14% increase. You are unlikely to get to the next step, 5120kbps giving an IP Profile of 4500kbps.

Have you ever tried a "daylight hours" connection using the test socket, on the wall at the back in this pic? The stats taken immediately after connecting there would tell us the best you can achieve. You need the router connected with just the ADSL cable and a filter - no phone extension cable.

If you try it, make a note of the colours of wire attached to each terminal, as per that pic, and posts the details of those as well as the stats smile.

Re the upload, there is a 832kbps option with most ISPs, but it may cost you more. (The 448kbps you have is a capped speed, not a free sync). Your line should be able to achieve the 832kbps sync. Which ISP are you with, and which package?


My package: Post Office package http://www.postoffice.co.uk/broadband-extra

Stats from test socket:

Link Information

Uptime: 0 days, 0:02:24

DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.1

Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 448 / 3.968

Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/GB]: 994,62 / 1,99

Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,3 / 19,3

Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 27,5 / 51,0

SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 19,0 / 9,4

System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----

Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / TSTC

Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 9 / -

Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 1 / -

Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / -

Loss of Link (Remote): -

Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 2.882 / -

FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 186

CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0

HEC Errors (Up/Down): - / 0 / 0

Pictures from socket (no extensions in the house)

Actual socket

No wires on the backplate, is this because there is no extension?

backplate

BT Result:

Download speedachieved during the test was - 3.15 Mbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 0.6 Mbps-7.15 Mbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :3.94 Mbps(DOWN-STREAM), 0.45 Mbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 3.5 Mbps
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 26-Nov-12 19:04:17
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The NM has risen to 9 dB, so damping your speed by 0.5 Meg. ES are extremely high.

The thing you call 'backplate' is actually the faceplate. There are no wires on it cuz you have no extensions.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 19 Meg WBC
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(deleted) Mon 26-Nov-12 19:13:41
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What does it mean though? Can anything be done?
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 26-Nov-12 19:37:17
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Re: What are the odds my exchange will get ADSL2


[re: XRaySpeX] [link to this post]
 
I think the Local ES figure is held at the DSLAM - some wierd logic in the labelling. Only resets if the line is reset at the DSLAM. So 219 since last night.

I think the sync-time margin was probably already set at 9dB 15 days ago, and would account for the slightly low original sync.

On that subject, I'll reply to the OP's post smile.

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Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 53.5/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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