I differ.

We will get managed option, i.e. openreach look after modem and its firmware or
Wires only where the CP or consumer is responsible depending on the contract with the CP

Wiresonly might mean locked down modem/router combinations by the providers, which is not uncommon abroad with limited access to configure a few bits.

Lost 30% - crosstalk maybe?

So, Openreach decide to provide unlocked modems, then what? People will start complaining they cannot access the DSLAM configuration ...

Like people do for ADSLx?

I am aware that the number of faults and outages due to tinkerers is depressing, so keeping people out of managed equipment in the interests of uptime and keeping the settings correct makes sense.

Indeed, having done callouts to people that have plugged the RJ11 phone cable into the LAN port etc I think there's a discrepancy between the distribution of knowledge/ability in the population as a whole and that assumed by the OP.

Also the lack of decent VDSL mondem/routers from decent brands has a big part to play in this.

I think its due to crosstalk yes, as to why so severe so early tho I dont know.

The QLN is way higher higher than I have seen on other lines, and its pretty much across the entire frequency. Only not affecting the U1 frequency. Snrm remains stable so I dont think its variable noise, crosstalk seems most likely.

When my attaiinable was higher at 90 instead of 73 the QLN was almost half of what it is now. I got no idea what my QLN was like at 110 attainable tho.

Edited by Chrysalis (Thu 10-Jan-13 11:51:08)

In reply to a post by MHC:

So, Openreach decide to provide unlocked modems, then what? People will start complaining they cannot access the DSLAM configuration ...

I'll await the posts to that effect once the wires only option goes live commercially.

Not a great deal about but my issue is with the crummy VDSL modems supplied by openreach.

At least with most third party routers/modems, they listen to customers requests and don't lock their routers.



A good third party one here http://www.billion.com/product/vdsl2/BiPAC8200N-wire...

That's a bit silly. You could go on like that and say next, they will want access to the exchange.

If we can get our line stats from 99% of ADSL routers then why not fibre? It's something we have had now for many years but soon as fibre comes out, openreach provide a stupid locked modem.

We only need the line stats, nothing else.