Could be a HR fault

With the way the upstream and downstream are spread out on VDSL watching the bin plot change over time may be more useful than just the single figure

The reason that Broadbandbuyer will not official say that the 8200n can be used without an Openreach modem may be that the T&Cs for using a FTTC service require the use of an Openreach modem, so Broadbuyer will not advise their customers to to go against this.

Ugh, 100BaseT?

Which arrived on the market first - the 7800N or the 8200N? I currently use a 7800 on an all-copper ADSL line and my Ethernet (wired) runs at a nominal 1G bps connectivity, so certainly the 7800 is designed to be capable of 1G bps. If the 82 came after the 78 one would have thought the 82 would have been kitted out with 1000BaseT.

Bear in mind that with FTTC, the fastest effective speed at which the VDSL line will operate will more than likely be down to the length and quality of the copper pair between the user and the street cabinet. In some cases that stretch of line may not be able to support anything in excess of 100M bps and, if so, a sub-1G bps Ethernet connection would be neither here nor there.

The 7800N has gigabit LAN ports, but the WAN port is only 10/100. As is the Ethernet port on the BT modem.

Is it possible that, someone from TB could contact openreach and ask them why they feel the need to lock modems? Also what they are going to do about, unlocking them for future use.


They don't even have a basic correspondence email to email them with. Need to have some stupid account with them. http://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/loadReason.do

Edited by deleted (Sun 13-Jan-13 19:19:49)

Why?

Wires only is on their timeline and covered in our news some time ago.

As for why they lock, in previous discussions with them it has been

1. Engineering so they can control and learn how VDSL2 operates
2. This then makes it easier to feed back into ANFP for future profile updates
3. Reduced need for supporting multiple VDSL2 modems
4. Commonality of interface between FTTC and FTTP products is a very useful thing for the retail providers

Because I want an official statement from openreach themselves. Most of them seem to be a pretty poor excuse to lock a modem, even more so not providing line stats.

I see this today but as you seem so say, this full wires only probably won't happen.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/5656-trial-to-let...

Edited by deleted (Mon 14-Jan-13 15:36:20)

It will only happen when the communications providers request it, so best to get them to ask why, as those who pay Openreach will have more influence.

My last conversation in person with Openreach on this was last summer.

Have you got a car, with a modern computerised engine management system?

There is an upside to this.

It's my understanding that it counts as line plant so if it goes bang or otherwise stops working they have to replace it dont they otherwise they are not providing the ISP with the service rented on your behalf.

In some ways it might have been better for DSL to be delivered this way too so that the end user is just responsible for a router to teminate an ethernet feed.

Less for you to worry about.

After all, unless you are really interested you don't go hunting for error correction and signal stats on a Sky or Virgin Media box do you?