That is a good one!

I am not on Fibre or ADSL and i got no control over what you would call the modem. it is a bit strange at first as with ADSL i could change SNR and get loads of info from the ADSl router.


The only info I can get now if I connect the computer directly to my modem, which is on the roof is power output, SNR, but can't change it, where the access point is located and a user number and that is it.

TBH it don't bother me as much as I thought it would, as long as I get the speed I want and reliability.

if i go to fibre at some point things may have changed by then, but to be honest i think i still prefer the separate modem router thing.

What's that got to do with having an unlocked fiber modem and for line stats to be shown?

You can get a mini computer to plug into cars that have a EMS for stats, diagnostics.

Second I would not buy I car without knowing what the max fixed speed would be. Thats not the same for fibre unfortunately.


You also check how fast a car can go before you buy and expect it to go as fast as your told.

I'm not so sure about that. The isp is hardly going to say, Oi! I want my customers to have line stats and a unlocked modem. Lol
Isp's will just take what openreach are offering them and pay up, they won't question it.

Anyway at the end of the day, this unlocked modem and router stats thing, is common sense. Just a shame we have such a gutless regulator called offcon.

Edited by deleted (Tue 15-Jan-13 20:43:15)

You can still have a separate modem. It's just the modem provided by openreach is junk and don't give your your line stats, without unlocking it.

If you buy a 3rd party modem, it may give you the line stats but they are quite expensive for fibre at the moment. It would be cheaper to buy a combined router/modem if you wanted.

Mini computer aka fritzbox 7390 to give you VDSL stats for diagnostics or one of the Openreach ones that pop up on ebay

Cost of hiring a track to test cars top speed and insurance for track driving - not many bother.

It took time for wires only ADSL to appear and the same for VDSL2

In reply to a post by superspeed:

What's that got to do with having an unlocked fiber modem and for line stats to be shown?

You can get a mini computer to plug into cars that have a EMS for stats, diagnostics.

Err no!

Apart from the fact that a minicomputer is rather a large beastie by today's standards, (try googling it), the independent car maintenance firms are currently up in arms as they have to spend around £7000 per manufacturer for the software for their cars. So a specialist BMW of Merc non-franchised dealer - fine. A multi-manufacturer garage - no way.

My point being that you aren't upset by the unavailable diagnostics from the car.

Re the speeds of the car when tested or whatever - isn't that exactly the issue here? If your FTTC sings along perfectly at what looks like a reasonable speed, who needs diagnostics? When did you last have an ECG or one of the several scans now possible?

It's only when the car's speed is initially poor or suddenly drops you need to know. But you cannot interrogate the EMS.

Same difference.