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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 09-Aug-13 22:32:59
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Re: Hypothetical question: Will ADSL be come obsolete.


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Politically no way that fixed line broadband can be withdrawn until an equivalent latency/bandwidth option in place.

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(deleted) Fri 09-Aug-13 22:33:42
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Re: Hypothetical question: Will ADSL be come obsolete.


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I guess though by then they would take the fibre from an old FTTC box?
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(staff) Fri 09-Aug-13 22:36:07
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Re: Hypothetical question: Will ADSL be come obsolete.


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But VDSL does not have the range of ADSL....so repeaters or regenerators in Openreach language may be the norm.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 10-Aug-13 00:40:45
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Re: Hypothetical question: Will ADSL be come obsolete.


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Indeed we can, but the point of the OP's question is in the tail. See also his reply to your reply to me.

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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Sat 10-Aug-13 07:18:07
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Re: Hypothetical question: Will ADSL be come obsolete.


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In reply to a post by zarkrax:
I guess though by then they would take the fibre from an old FTTC box?


In my long range vision there will be no street side electronics - just passive optical splitters in chambers or up poles.

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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Sat 10-Aug-13 07:18:54
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nobody will lose service, IMHO.

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MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 10-Aug-13 10:09:10
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Re: Hypothetical question: Will ADSL be come obsolete.


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I have that vision, but hopefully will have retired and be sat in a chair in my garden by then

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(deleted) Sat 10-Aug-13 10:57:33
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It will go. How quickly depends on HS broadband take up and technology progress and the driving down of costs. Having active equipment distributed around the streets in a pretty uncontrolled environment is not ideal and is costly.

A full fibre solution starts to look attractive when you get into the region of 50% takeup
Standard User kwikbreaks
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 12-Aug-13 12:12:38
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In reply to a post by Bob_s2:
Having active equipment distributed around the streets in a pretty uncontrolled environment is not ideal and is costly
As proven by the level of debt Virgin Media have ended up with...
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(deleted) Mon 12-Aug-13 12:59:38
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Actually, there is a serious point about the economics of ADSL at the level of exchanges here. There is a substantial investment in exchange equipment, leased lines, etc required to support an ADSL service. The number of ADSL lines is now falling. So, at what point does it become uneconomic to support or replace ADSL equipment at an exchange?

I assume that leased lines & their interfaces can be shared, but what about the ADSL interface? If BTW or LLU operators have no obligation to provide an ADSL service, what is to stop them saying that it is not worth replacing old equipment and simply withdrawing the service at the end of the life of existing equipment?

An alternative is that manufacturers offer mix & match modules so that the equipment is simply a rack of modules whose composition and configuration are adjusted to the demand for different services. That may already be possible in the more advanced exchanges but what about all the 20CN ADSL1 equipment that is out there.
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