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(deleted) Wed 14-Aug-13 15:47:44
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Re: Broadband "Not Set"?


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
I never knew about this LLU distinction...

Does this means my choice of broadband ISP is a lot more limited? Is there any where I can find out who would provide at this new address ?

Thanks very much everyone for your swift replies and good knowledge.
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(staff) Wed 14-Aug-13 15:49:20
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Re: Broadband "Not Set"?


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They are only obliged if they keep charging you what they are charging you now, if they downgrade your bill to the voice line rental (WLR) only then not much you can do.

No legal obligation to provide broadband

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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(staff) Wed 14-Aug-13 15:50:24
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Re: Broadband "Not Set"?


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My instinct suggests they are hoping to keep the poster as a WLR customer and avoid the expense of IPStream Connect at £7 a month or so (memory is weak) but only charging customer £2.99.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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(staff) Wed 14-Aug-13 15:56:41
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Re: Broadband "Not Set"?


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Yes, no LLU means the cheapest deals usually vanish e.g. the TV adverts for Sky and TalkTalk don't apply.

Also some providers will charge more in your location e.g. PlusNet and EE.

Sky will offer to connect you, but at £17 per month and it is a product to avoid due to congestion issues.

BT Retail can be a reasonable choice if you find Primus are unwilling to connect you once the move has completed. Ordering another broadband service while the phone line is being installed will be very difficult.

The question is whether you keep the line rental with Primus, as providers are trying to force bundles on people these days.

PlusNet works out around £19.49 per month for unlimited broadband, and reflects the costs of providing unlimited on this exchange, i.e. you can get an idea why Primus may be reluctant to connect you.

There is a chance that once you have moved the phone line, Primus will still happily connect your broadband at their low prices,

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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(deleted) Wed 14-Aug-13 16:05:05
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Re: Broadband "Not Set"?


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Hi Mr Saffron,

Thank you for all your help today and all the insightful, ery helpful comments.

The issue is now completely clear and I have to come to terms with the fact my internets is going to be more expensive than I had originally planned.

Not to worry, such is life!

Thanks so much again,

Dan
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 14-Aug-13 17:40:56
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And rather slow, I'm afraid frown.

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 14-Aug-13 17:43:57
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In reply to a post by digitaldanuk:
Do you know if primus are obliged to continue on my service if I am just transferring?
Almost certainly not!

Most ISPs' T&Cs re: House Moves, allow them to terminate the contract if they are unable to provide existing services at new address. Indeed Primus T&Cs in this respect look patently unfair:
2.10. Should the Customer move from the UK address given initially in order to receive this Service, then Primus will only use its reasonable endeavours to make available the Service at any new UK address, subject to confirmation that the Customers telephone line supports ADSL (Asymmetric Digital Subscriber Line) and payment of any Charge for transferring the Service. Whether or not Primus is able to make the Service available at any new UK address, the Customer shall continue to be liable to pay the Charges due under the current term of the Agreement. This clause shall apply each time the Customer changes its UK address.
However, it can be confirmed that ADSL, albeit slow ADSL Max, is supported at OP's new address. so they should use their 'reasonable endeavours' to provide it.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC

Edited by XRaySpeX (Wed 14-Aug-13 17:51:39)

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(deleted) Thu 15-Aug-13 12:30:01
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Re: Broadband 'Not Set'?


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Hi XRaySpex.

Looks like it's going to be damagelimitation for me then.

Am expecting a phone call from them today to hopefully come to a conclusion on this.

Thanks for looking up their T+C!

Cheers
Dan
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