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Standard User ARD
(knowledge is power) Tue 17-Sep-13 09:08:36
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Re: Loss of throughput on ADSL2+


[re: yarwell] [link to this post]
 
I am interleaved. BT insisted on that back in 2011. It was at the start of a problem with synch was eventually sorted when BT provided a new line. the following year. My downstream SNR was hard capped at 6 dB at another point in the diagnostic process. This will explain why my synch has never been quite as high as other posters suggest it ought to be.

Edited by ARD (Tue 17-Sep-13 10:34:05)

Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Tue 17-Sep-13 09:09:29
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Re: Loss of throughput on ADSL2+


[re: ARD] [link to this post]
 
I was thinking along the same lines, as a matter of interest for comparison are you using the same wireless channel as you were with the ZyXEL?

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Standard User ARD
(knowledge is power) Tue 17-Sep-13 10:22:46
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Re: Loss of throughput on ADSL2+


[re: Apprentice] [link to this post]
 
Yes. It's the same channel. I've just looked at the Amazon reviews of the Technicolor and there are quite a few moans about wireless coverage:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Technicolour-TG582n-Port-Wir...

This could be the source of slower throughput but I won't know until I get another router and I doubt I'm hgoing to have time to buy one today. Even if I order online it wouldn't be with me before tomorrow at the earliest frown


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Standard User ian72
(knowledge is power) Tue 17-Sep-13 13:03:25
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Re: Loss of throughput on ADSL2+


[re: ARD] [link to this post]
 
Are you not able to temporarily plug in via a network cable - then you can compare the wireless and wired speed tests.
Standard User ARD
(knowledge is power) Tue 17-Sep-13 14:01:38
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Re: Loss of throughput on ADSL2+


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Good idea smile I'll dig out my long coil of wire and contect my desktop to the Technicolor later today or sit in the hall with my laptop. There was never a noticable difference working wired or wirelessly with my (now defunct) ZyXEL.

Edited by ARD (Tue 17-Sep-13 14:04:04)

Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Wed 18-Sep-13 16:00:48
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Re: Loss of throughput on ADSL2+


[re: ARD] [link to this post]
 
don't think you are

FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 13.255 / 2.246
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 9.688 / 9.089

If interleaved the FEC count would be high (Forward error corrected) and the other two much lower. Most routers make it clearer than your by using "Fast path" etc.

This is interleaved :-
Uptime: 0 days, 14:54:33

DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5

Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1.188 / 10.835

Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/GB]: 436,36 / 1,99

Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,8 / 0,0

Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 20,5 / 40,0

SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 6,8 / 4,2

System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----

Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / IFTN

Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 9 / 0

Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 1 / 0

Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0

Loss of Link (Remote): -

Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 21.542 / 0

FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 1.905.685
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 156 / 226
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 159 / 3.002

--

Phil

MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

MaxDSL diagnostics
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Wed 18-Sep-13 16:07:39
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Re: Loss of throughput on ADSL2+


[re: ARD] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by ARD:
Yes. It's the same channel. I've just looked at the Amazon reviews of the Technicolor and there are quite a few moans about wireless coverage:

the lack of moveable external antennae doesn't help in that regard

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Phil

MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

MaxDSL diagnostics
Standard User ARD
(knowledge is power) Thu 19-Sep-13 15:21:55
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Re: Loss of throughput on ADSL2+


[re: yarwell] [link to this post]
 
Hi Phil,

You've had me puzzled. Had BT turned it off after making such a fuss? Here's my telnet result and as you can see my line remains interleaved:

Modem state: up
Up time (Days hh:mm:ss): 10 days, 5:29:53
xDSL Standard: ITU-T G.992.5
xDSL Annex: Annex A
Channel Mode: Interleaved

Number of reset: 0

Chipset Vendor info (G.994.1): Local Remote
Country code: B500 B500
ID: BDCM TSTC
Specific: 0000 0510

System Vendor info (showtime): Local Remote
Country code: 0F00 0000
ID: TMMB ----
Specific: 3C61 0000

Bearers generic info DS US
Payload rate [Kbps]: 16655 1088
Attenuation [dB]: 23.0 11.5
Margins [dB]: 6.2 5.9
Output power [dBm]: 20.8 12.1

Number of bearers: 1
Bearer 0 DS US
INP [DMT symbols]: 0.00 0.00
Delay [ms]: 0.12 1.00
Depth []: 1 0.00
R: 0 0

G.997.1 Statistics (Current):

Failures:
Line failures Near end
Loss of signal (LOS): 0
Loss of frame (LOF): 0
Loss of power (LPR): 0

Performance monitoring:
Line PM: Near end
Error second (ES): 2898

Channel PM: Near end Far end
Bearer 0:
Code Violation (CV): 2960 18763
FEC: 0 0

ATM data path PM: Near end Far end
Bearer 0:
HEC violation count (HEC): 13275 N/A

G.997.1 Statistics (last 15 minutes):

Failures:
Line failures Near end
Loss of signal (LOS): 0
Loss of frame (LOF): 0
Loss of power (LPR): 0

Performance monitoring:
Line PM: Near end
Error second (ES): 0

Channel PM: Near end Far end
Bearer 0:
Code Violation (CV): 2960 18763
FEC: 0 0

ATM data path PM: Near end Far end
Bearer 0:
HEC violation count (HEC): 13275 N/A

G.997.1 Statistics (last 24 hours):

Failures:
Line failures Near end
Loss of signal (LOS): 0
Loss of frame (LOF): 0
Loss of power (LPR): 0

Performance monitoring:
Line PM: Near end
Error second (ES): 52

Channel PM: Near end Far end
Bearer 0:
Code Violation (CV): 2960 18763
FEC: 0 0
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 19-Sep-13 15:43:29
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Re: Loss of throughput on ADSL2+


[re: ARD] [link to this post]
 
I'm not familiar with this router but 'Depth' is to do with interleaving. I think in this:
In reply to a post by ARD:
Depth []: 1 0.00
the '1' means your downstream is Fast Path.

Like the Netgear routers I am familiar with, the:
Channel Mode: Interleaved
refers only to the upstream.

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Standard User ARD
(knowledge is power) Thu 19-Sep-13 16:54:40
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Re: Loss of throughput on ADSL2+


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I think I see what you mean. Router reports that the interleave depth is set to 1 and 1 = no interleaving....?
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