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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 17-Nov-13 18:07:17
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Re: Two broadband providers in same house?


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In reply to a post by purpleronnie:
So if they went for BT broadband (as we rent a BT line), his connection wouldn't affect my connection in any way?
This is very confusing.

I can see two things you might mean in your opening post:-

1) The person wants to connect their computer to your telephone line and get broadband on it. On the same telephone number but a different broadband supplier;

2) The person wants their own line and number, with a broadband service on that - which is what I said I assumed in my first reply.

Choice (1) of those is not possible. There can only be one supplier on a line, and only one service from that supplier. (That service can be shared by several people, see the third option later in this post).

Choice (2) is what I talked about originally.

A third option, that you didn't seem to mean, is for the other person to use your existing broadband connection as well as you. That is possible, and what most households do.

In that setup if they use it at the time you need fast access, then they could easily slow you down. If they use it at other times instead, then it would probably be fine. We would need some technical info from your connection statistics to advise further.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Sun 17-Nov-13 18:11:10
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Re: Two broadband providers in same house?


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In that setup if they use it at the time you need fast access, then they could easily slow you down.

I reckon that option three was what the OP was on about, and if 'fast access' is what they require, no doubt it ain't as fast as they think it is. The 330 will be making a hash of it.

Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 17-Nov-13 18:28:24
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Speedtouch 330 Modem will Slow your ADSL Connection


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It will certainly slow your connection speed.

You must have been with Orange/Wanadoo for ages (2005?) starting with Fixed 1 or 2 Meg BB. I hope you are still not on that. Haven't you upgraded since to ADSL2+? Didn't Orange send you a proper ADSL2+ router at that time? They should have done. You should ask them for one.

EDIT: You certainly won't be able to share your existing connection with someone else (Roberto's Option 3) over the Speedtouch 330, esp. as you do business from home. For starters, it's not even a router; it only handles a single PC. They will need to install a 2nd landline with its installation costs and 2nd line rental.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC

Edited by XRaySpeX (Sun 17-Nov-13 18:34:52)


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 17-Nov-13 18:40:25
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Re: Two broadband providers in same house?


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Thanks for everyones help, I apologise if I wasn't clear.

I very much doubt they would be willing to pay for another line because of the extra line rental costs.

So the only option would be for them to share my connection.

If they did share it, but didn't actually use the internet in the times I needed it most, I assume it wouldn't affect my speeds at all? is that correct? But if we were online at the same time it could slow mine down?

Sorry for the questions I know nothing about this stuff....obviously.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 17-Nov-13 18:52:39
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Re: Two broadband providers in same house?


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First step in that case is to replace the ancient modem you have (i.e. just USB) and replace it with a modem wi-fi router, most providers will supply one for free (might want you to commit to another minimum term) but free often has implications.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 17-Nov-13 19:26:15
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
First step in that case is to replace the ancient modem you have (i.e. just USB) and replace it with a modem wi-fi router, most providers will supply one for free (might want you to commit to another minimum term) but free often has implications.


Thanks, so were my assumptions in my previous post correct?
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Sun 17-Nov-13 19:32:22
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Re: Two broadband providers in same house?


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Thanks, so were my assumptions in my previous post correct?


You can only have one broadband connection per phone line.

If you share it the same amount of capacity is used by two of you.

If the other person is out and all their kit is off you get 100% of the capacity.

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 17-Nov-13 19:36:57
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Not if the other person wants fast access and high usage, as is the modern tendency, and you are still on 1 or 2 Meg Fixed BB. Do you know?

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 17-Nov-13 19:48:13
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You can only have one broadband connection per phone line.
This may not be clear to OP that you mean only 1 BB service on the phone line. He can have as many PCs as it will take connecting to that service.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Sun 17-Nov-13 20:52:04
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The ST330 is a usb modem not a router it has no firewall ect, And it is limited to 8mbps so doesnt not support ADSL2 /2+ and as been said already is something out of the ark, it should have been upgraded free without a new contract by your isp assuming it has always been the same isp ?
Seeing as you are using a modem that is probably 7+ yrs old from the days when the max adsl speed was 8mbps Ip data stream,(shudders at the name ) If you updated this to a modern all in one ADSL modem /router it would support speeds upto 24mbps by using ADSL2+ ,

As for another ISP this would require as said a second line ,So would also mean additional line rental & install fee/min term contract & calling plan, and the assoiciated fees for another bb product

Is FFTC /P available to you ? if so this would negate the need for a second line as you could get speeds of up to 80mbps down & 20 mbps up or higher with FFTP

Edited by tommy45 (Sun 17-Nov-13 20:55:42)

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