In reply to a post by superspeed:

TV licence should be abolished. TV licence is wrong and out of date. Biased BBC should use subscriptions like sky does.

iplayer is basically a catch-up service, not live TV streaming so TV licence is not applicable or should it be.

http://www.tvlicenceresistance.info/petition/

Some people see 'Income Tax' as wrong and out of date, would they be ''silly '' not to try to avoid paying their total ''calculated dues '' based on income , or instead just pay an amount to support the ''Causes ''they personally approve of, like cricket or the Royal Family or free sandbags for under sea-level housing ?.

No it's not sorry. The TV licence is forced on people who want to watch live TV, with harassment and threats, regardless if you watch the BBC or not.

Sky TV is subscription based and is voluntary. Sky doesn�t bang on your door if you don't subscribe or do they make you pay for Sky if you don't want it.

So recap. TV licences is forced and sky TV is voluntary subscription based.

Check out this forum about it all.
http://www.tvlicenceresistance.info/forum/

Edited by deleted (Sat 01-Feb-14 20:21:53)

That is up to them but no it's not silly. The BBC is not accountable and is corrupt.

They use threats and intimidation to make people pay for it, when we should have a choice. I would never support the BBC after the Jimmy Savile cover up anyway.

Another link http://biasedbbc.org/

Edited by deleted (Sat 01-Feb-14 20:40:29)

In reply to a post by superspeed:

So recap. TV licences is forced and sky TV is voluntary subscription based.

Absolutely right, but it's a bit more than that. Things are only ever forced upon you if you let them.

First you have to realise that every document you receive through your letter box from the state is an "invitation to contract". TV license, electoral roll, child birth registration, yada yada. By filling in the document and signing, you are entering into that contract. In the case of TV license, you're entering into a legal requirement that you pay a fee to them to permit you to watch live BBC channels. As long as you pay this, you won't hear a peep out of them.

This is done by intimidation and threats through the post. Most people succumb to it and just fill in the form, setup a direct debit, job done. But in reality, you do not need to do this. The unfortunate bit is, if you don't, you will then be constantly harassed by post, and even a visit from an "inspector" who then tries to "force" you further into contracting. Not to mention the attempts they will stoop to in order to scare you into contracting (fines, court summons etc). But remember, even a court summons is, yup, you've guessed it - an "invitation to contract". It's inviting you to visit their "place of business" to discuss why you haven't been playing by "their" rules. Deception at its best.

Of course, you could fill in the form and say "I have no TV, so no TV license required". But you still have to sign if you do that, and that's another contract. If they find out you have lied, they can legally fine you and have you again for that.

It's a farce really. I see why the TV license had some purpose and credibility in the early years of TV, when the BBC were the only TV company in the UK. But times have moved on. If anything, it's an unlawful way of extracting money out of gullible people who do not know their rights, with that money going straight into the back pockets of a very corrupt organisation. I personally have very little respect for the BBC now, given that they employed Jimmy Savile for all those years but still continue to do their "nicey nicey" Children in Need party trick every year. Honestly, they should just shut up shop and die, and take their TV license with them.

In reply to a post by superspeed:

They use threats and intimidation to make people pay for it, when we should have a choice. I would never support the BBC after the Jimmy Savile cover up anyway.

A lot of former BBC employees have now been arrested for sex offences under Operation Yewtree: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Yewtree#Arrests

And of course Stuart Hall has already been convicted of multiple sex offences.

Well said and top post. Many people should take note of what you say as it's correct.

BBC is a massive dinosaurs of a organisation that needs putting down urgently.

Edited by deleted (Sat 01-Feb-14 23:56:31)

Yep, well aware and have been following this on another forum. Doesn�t change what happened and the BBC cover up though.


This is what can happen with TVL.

Ron Sinclair, assaulted by David Clark, a BBC tellytax goon .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKRyNYChYjI

Apologies for dragging an old thread up, but it seems many people last year stopped paying their TV license because they can watch all the programs they want via iPlayer catch up (which is not a live service). So rather than add adverts into the BBC iPlayer service (like ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5 do) to cover costs, the government wish to adjust how the TV license (TV tax) is collected.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/06/14...

Really? Are they actually for real? You see, they want their money, and they're going to use everything in their power to get it!

I swear, if they start doing this, I am cancelling my direct debit with my council and I will pay them a fixed amount (minus the additional "TV license" charge) instead. If they have a problem with that, they can "invite me to their place of business" (aka court) to discuss the matter further.

This country is governed by morons of the highest order.

One Conservative has already described the idea as a "non-starter".

Already done in Germany.....