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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 15-Feb-14 15:56:40
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No, no taps before master socket, but good thinking. Going to have a play around with shorter rj11 lead and investigate new router. Thanks all for the tips.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 15-Feb-14 16:18:21
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What are you calling an RJ11 lead? Is it a long modem cable, or a telephone extension lead? A telephone extension lead almost certainly contains a ring wire that is not filtered out by most standard faceplates.

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Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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(deleted) Sat 15-Feb-14 19:21:21
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'Cause it's got to RJ11 plugs on either end but happy to be corrected and call it modem cable.


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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 15-Feb-14 19:24:54
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I'm not trying to correct anything smile.

I was trying to make sure it wasn't a phone extension lead. As in Router >> ADSL cable >> dangly filter >> extension cable >> phone socket. That is a common scenario and connects a ring wire into the phone line. Negating the benefit of detaching the one inside the master socket.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 15-Feb-14 21:05:01
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Is there a chance that your neighbours are from a distinctly separate PCP (Green) Distribution Cabinet.

Near me, there was a quiet country road, with one ancient cottage on it, with obvious overhead phone line.

In the past decade, the surrounding fields have filled up with houses, in total a fewl thousand; and more being added "daily".

These have no signs of overhead lines; and in any case require multiple new PCPs, new cabling to modern standards etc.

But the cottage remains on the old overhead, exposed, vulnerable line; and whatever routing it has always had back to the Exchange.
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(deleted) Sat 15-Feb-14 22:37:35
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Robertos no you where right to point out, it is a dedicated modem cable, shielded etc. I did have a play with the cables today, don't know if it just a coincidence when I swapped over to cheap and cheerful non shielded I got 100 Kbps more, need to swap a couple more times to see ..... I think it's just my line must just be abit shoddier than my neighbours( who are all on same cab). I'm hoping that when FTTC arrives in Sept that the shoddy bit is upstream from my cabinet as I've a 1100 meter run to the cab this is going to be the difference between 24mbps vs 15mbps or worse ......
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 15-Feb-14 22:42:00
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A difference of 100kbps between sync's is easily accounted for by time of day and various other influences.

It'll be interesting to see how you get on when the time comes. Let us know smile.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 15-Feb-14 23:24:38
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You are getting about the correct speeds for your line,

The only way to find out why your neighbours are getting faster speeds is to read off their equivalent router stats, particularly noting attenuations & NMs.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
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(deleted) Sun 16-Feb-14 11:51:43
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In reply to a post by plankton:
No, no taps before master socket, but good thinking. Going to have a play around with shorter rj11 lead and investigate new router. Thanks all for the tips.
Get this BT Business Hub 2Wire 2700 router for your long line, it will improve your connection speed and as you are with BT it shouldn�t have any problems connecting to your service. smile

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BT-2700HGV-BUSINESS-HUB-54...
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sun 16-Feb-14 12:01:37
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I certainly agree with that.

The 2wire will actually still work with a negative SNR. Most modems/hubs will resync when the SNR drops below about 3dB the 2700s are known to continue working - I have seen -0.7dB when I had ADSL2+ and was still able to get normal (full) speed for my line.


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