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Standard User b4dger
(knowledge is power) Mon 14-Apr-14 10:07:50
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Re: ADSLNation faceplate - going FTTC


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
Thanks - Just have to wait for #BDUK to finish their work now smile

Standard User MHC
(sensei) Mon 14-Apr-14 10:17:44
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Re: ADSLNation faceplate - going FTTC


[re: b4dger] [link to this post]
 
The Clarity page points to the BT SIN that defines ADSL not VDSL/FTTC. The BT SIN for FTTC defines a "Service Specific Face Plate".

If you want some reading, go through ETSI spec 101952-1 and specifically the tables A3, A4, A5 & A6 You will see the requirements are different - for example ADSL specific filters only need to operate within specifications up to 5MHz so above that it can do almost anything.


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Standard User b4dger
(knowledge is power) Mon 14-Apr-14 10:24:42
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Re: ADSLNation faceplate - going FTTC


[re: MHC] [link to this post]
 
Just trying to keep things simple...

Clarity are saying:
"Note that for installation and filtering purposes, ADSL and VDSL are all exactly the same thing, and all hardware except your router works and is fitted precisely the same way."

As they are selling the kit you would hope they know what they are talking about?

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Mon 14-Apr-14 10:41:08
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Re: ADSLNation faceplate - going FTTC


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In reply to a post by b4dger:
Just trying to keep things simple...

Clarity are saying:
"Note that for installation and filtering purposes, ADSL and VDSL are all exactly the same thing, and all hardware except your router works and is fitted precisely the same way."

As they are selling the kit you would hope they know what they are talking about?


HOPE!

Start with this: http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_ts%5C101900_101999%...


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 14-Apr-14 12:59:20
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Re: ADSLNation faceplate - going FTTC


[re: b4dger] [link to this post]
 
I have an ADSL filtered faceplate on my BT master. The engineer fitting my FTTC stated that he did not need to fit an interstitial plate and he left my faceplate untouched, including my Cat5e cable connection running to the ADSL filtered extension. My existing filtered extension he used, plugging the BT modem in using my existing cable. He connected up the BT router did a few quick checks and a speed test gave 37.62Mb/s down and 8.99Mb/s up. I was on a BT 40/10 package. That was nearly 12 months ago and I have had no problems and regular checks indicate that the original speeds have been maintained.
Standard User b4dger
(knowledge is power) Mon 14-Apr-14 13:15:49
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Re: ADSLNation faceplate - going FTTC


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Thanks for that - very useful.

I had started to think that FTTC/VDSL would be different to my current setup - but I'm starting to appreciate that things basically follow the same rules as ADSL regarding internal wiring etc.

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 14-Apr-14 13:16:49
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Re: ADSLNation faceplate - going FTTC


[re: b4dger] [link to this post]
 
Are you confusing "microfilters" (or their equivalent in the faceplate) , which are the same for ADSL & VDSL, with anti-interference filters like say the RF3 which do have to take the working bandwidth in Hz of adsl/VDSL etc into account.
(see another thread where a RF2, designed for 'phones only, clobbered ads l.

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Standard User b4dger
(knowledge is power) Mon 14-Apr-14 13:20:09
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Re: ADSLNation faceplate - going FTTC


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No, I'm only talking about a normal ADSLNation ADSL faceplate etc. not RF2/3.

Just trying to be prepared if I have to make any changes to my current 'optimised' ADSL setup for when FTTC arrives.

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 14-Apr-14 14:14:50
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At Day 1 your setup will work. If you then decide to check out if it could be significantly better, get a temporary extension power lead up there and try the modem directly into the test socket, as you would for ADSLx. After that it's up to you smile. You could ask the engineer to leave you the VDSL2 interstitial faceplate, as you've paid for it smile.

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Standard User b4dger
(knowledge is power) Mon 14-Apr-14 14:42:54
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Re: ADSLNation faceplate - going FTTC


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As you say, as per testing for ADSL I'll make a comparison using the TEST socket directly to make sure I'm not losing anything.

I'll certainly ask for a new faceplate, assuming it's an engineer install and it's not me doing the work.

I'm planning to stick with Freeola as my ISP so (unless things change) it will be an Entanet FTTC package. Shame their pricing isn't closer to BT's though frown

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