So, what will be the carrier system for your VOIP data stream?

Could be, but for FTTP landline rental (which has a POTS phone number associated) is payable.

I'm sure the OP is misunderstanding something, but as he is being uncooperative it is difficult to find out what.

I didn't see any mention of FTTC/FTTP on the Voipfone website, just:-

Voipfone�s broadband service is capable of providing speeds of up to 24mb down and1.3mb up and is designed to work with our voice service � if you use our telephony service you will get the best out of it by using our broadband too

but maybe their site is out of date.

Does a check ...

Voipfone Broadband is available on this line with estimated speed of 4000 Kbps down and maximum upload speeds of 1000 Kbps. For full details of all the features available in this package, please see below you may also find package 2 to be more beneficial depending on your requirements.

Package 1: Voipfone Standard £22 Per Month Package 2: Voipfone Pro £35 Per Month

FTTC is available on that line, but not apparently from them.

Edited by RobertoS (Mon 26-May-14 22:22:47)

For sure the service provider has a connection to what appears to be a Vodafone manhole, and a recent email implied that I would make use of this connection. I suppose the cables underneath this cover might be used by 3rd parties. I will inquire.

I wonder if we are talking C & W here?

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

I'm sure the OP is misunderstanding something,

It is clear from your posts that you think that. Why not work on the basis that this is not the case?

I am just trying to minimize my change over costs. It some ways it is surprising that BT and maybe Plusnet don't offer a residential line free VOIP service.

I would have used Sipgate as I have had a little used account with them for some years. Unfortunately Sipgate will no longer let you port numbers to their residential type accounts, I think as a consequence of some changes that Ofcom made about a year ago.

In reply to a post by Michael_Chare:

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

I'm sure the OP is misunderstanding something,

It is clear from your posts that you think that. Why not work on the basis that this is not the case?

Similarly why don't you work on the basis that it may be the case? Also that most of us here, certainly myself, are trying to help.

It is very common for people to ask the wrong question, because they don't understand their situation. All you had to do was answer a couple of simple questions (not just from me) to show this is not the case with you.

It all looks iffy to me.

OK, I see! Porting your # to VOIP provider ceases the landline immediately is just the way the system works. Can you not give BT 30 days notice and get VOIP provider to port # say 5 days from the end? Is that too risky?

In reply to a post by Michael_Chare:

That may well the the intention, but can you point to anything in the T&C which justifies the point that you make.

That 'Ending the Service' is a blanket T&C for each & every service you have with BT, one of which is the BT Telephony service which includes as the major component:

In reference to www.productsandservices.bt.com/consumerOrders/control/termsandcondi...:

installation or takeover and rental of a fixed BT telephone line that may be provided using copper or fibre technology depending on where you live;

In reply to a post by Michael_Chare:

It some ways it is surprising that BT and maybe Plusnet don't offer a residential line free VOIP service.

How can they? They need a physical line to get the Net to & from your VOIP phone. You are really asking for BB w/out line rental. That's just not offered in UK or its just bundled up, but we do have fairly cheap BB compared with other countries which might do this.

Incidentally PN did once do VOIP phone only: Broadband Phone (VoIP).

Yet another one! They are coming thick and fast this holiday.

School's out for the Whitsun !

In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:

How can they? They need a physical line to get the Net to & from your VOIP phone. You are really asking for BB w/out line rental. That's just not offered in UK or its just bundled up, but we do have fairly cheap BB compared with other countries which might do this.

Just like other VOIP providers! Just provide the VOIP service without the physical connection. I presume they BT have a VOIP service for their FTTP customers.

My impression is that most VOIP is business orientated. (Skype aside) I don't know how these customers make their internet connections.

Incidentally PN did once do VOIP phone only: Broadband Phone (VoIP).

Were Plusnet to still do this I would consider them. Fortunately they don't take that approach with their email service so I may well remain an email only customer,