I think some people should read up on what the United Kingdom is.

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

I think some people should read up on what the United Kingdom is.

Are you suggesting I need to?

I believe the United Kingdom is a country made up of Scotland, Wales, England and Northern Island. It is a political entity made by the joining of these 4. Before 1707 the UK did not exist and came into existance as a joining of England and Scotland. Therefore if half the founding parties of the union were to leave then does the union still exist.

Feel free to correct me if you believe I am incorrect.

Edited by ian72 (Wed 18-Jun-14 08:44:51)

You're incorrect. It is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. You may look it up here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom

In reply to a post by ian72:

The argument is that if the United Kingdom retains membership after the entity changes so significantly then Scotland should automatically get membership as well (as Scotland is as much a part of the ex UK as the rest of the entities that currently make up the UK).

Even if Scotland leaves the UK, the capital city of the UK remains the same, the currency remains the same, the parliament remains the same, the prime minister remains the same, etc.

I remain unconvinced by your argument, unless you can point to anything the EU has said on the issue.

I didn't say it was my argument or that I felt the argument had merit. I stated what the argument that I had seen was. Some people are arguing that Scotland have as much right to retain EU membership as the United Kingdom would after the break up.

Only the EU/courts can decide whether this is the case.

I am unclear as to where I was incorrect? That article seems to support what I said? Do you fancy expanding on what parts of my statement were factually wrong?

In reply to a post by ian72:

I didn't say it was my argument or that I felt the argument had merit.

Fair enough. There are two Ians on this thread and I think my comments were better directed to the prior.

That makes sense. Looking back I can see how your question relates to IanBB's post...

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

It is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

You are correct!

However, GB is a geographic concept of an Island (9th largest in the World), hence the reason that NI is not part of GB.

If Scotland wishes to separate itself from the existing Political definition of the UK, then that definition will have to change - for the simple reason that Scotland will still be part of the geographical concept of the Island of GB.