In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Just to agree with Partial, the photo you link to would imply two separate lines coming in on the dropwire at some point.

Could it be that the two sockets after are just linked in series, just that one is an LJU rather than an NTE ?

It may well be that as per your original suggestion, it's just a long line, and fitting a modern NTE with a faceplate filter will help. You really need to sort Edward Scissorhands work in the loft, if not a problem now, it will be soon enough.

Haha! Yeah I think the first port of call is to ensure we have the best termination possible for the connection in the loft then we can go from there back sorting as we go.

I've sent him a link to see if he wants to upgrade to some newer wire. I haven't yet seen the connecting of the extensions so for all I know it could be mismatched pairs as per the first page, Who knows. I won't know until I go over there.

These are the stats from a thread I created at the start of the week.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/hdyD7Qz.png[/IMG]

Oh my word, that downstream sync rate for 41db attenuation sucks !

Is there any way you can get the router in sync on the end of the incoming pair in the loft ? If there is huge increase in sync rate at that point, then you'll know that it's the internal stuff thats to blame.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Oh my word, that downstream sync rate for 41db attenuation sucks !

Is there any way you can get the router in sync on the end of the incoming pair in the loft ? If there is huge increase in sync rate at that point, then you'll know that it's the internal stuff thats to blame.

You are telling me!! That is why I am trying to advise as best as I can. He said he has never seen anything over 2mb on the line before.

I'll connect directly to the socket going to the outgoing linewith all extensions disconnected and see if we get any improvement. He is on Orange though so not sure if he would need to wait on BT's DLM to sort out the line. I'm guessing so? No LLU whatsoever on his exchange.

Worrying about DLM would come later, you just need to see a big increase in downstream sync rate on the router stats for starters.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Worrying about DLM would come later, you just need to see a big increase in downstream sync rate on the router stats for starters.

Ok thanks. I just presumed that the current sync rate would remain until DLM allowed an increase, I didn't realise that it would give a sudden increase to start with. I was always on LLU when I had ADSL2+

I guess it *might* be hard capped, but I suspect not.

It's a shame that router doesn't show a stat for theoretical max, that way you can see roughly what might be gained. I guess you've tried a different router on the line too ?

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

I guess it *might* be hard capped, but I suspect not.

It's a shame that router doesn't show a stat for theoretical max, that way you can see roughly what might be gained. I guess you've tried a different router on the line too ?

I have seen many threads in the Orange section about lines being capped which he is aware of but with something as poor as that, I suspected wiring issues.

I haven't had a chance to try any other routers but can easily take some over. It was only a discussion we had last weekend when we were at a BBQ. I have a BE box, a Netgear DG834GT and several filters lying around including ADSL nation faceplates.

Well good luck, and keep us posted.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Well good luck, and keep us posted.

I most certainly will. Thanks everyone for your help so far.

I'd go for the Netgear 834GT. Good stats info via telnet.

I don't think it's capped. Also look out for Sky boxes. Plus missing or failed filters.