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Standard User professor973
(experienced) Mon 04-Aug-14 18:31:22
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Re: Why I don't believe in gmail, hotmail etc.


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That is why for all but trivia sites, I have long stuck to encrypted mail, messaging and video from a country that respects privacy.
https://unseen.is

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 04-Aug-14 18:31:41
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There is a difference between the discussion over governmental access, even providers' enforced retention of certain data for governmental access, and routine detailed analysis by google, Facebook, Microsoft etc. of everything you do with or via them for their own commercial gain.

Google saying you forfeit all rights to privacy by using them is shocking. I stay clear of them as much as possible because I expected they would use your data, but that statement is outrageous.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 04-Aug-14 18:37:19
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I forgot the ID Card bit in your post.

Instinctively I am against them. Logically they seem to be a superb idea for the modern era, whereas before we did so much of our business online and identity theft became widespread they were an imposition.

As of a few weeks ago my legacy driving licence was replaced by a photo one.

I don't think in this country it should be compulsory to carry ID with you, but is certainly a good idea to possess it.

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 04-Aug-14 18:56:20
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The home of safe honest banks?

I'm not that paranoid; just mildly grin.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 04-Aug-14 19:02:22
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In reply to a post by professor973:
That is why for all but trivia sites, I have long stuck to encrypted mail, messaging and video from a country that respects privacy.
https://unseen.is


No thanks!

Why you should stay away from unseen.is
Standard User caffn8me
(knowledge is power) Tue 05-Aug-14 06:08:11
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Own servers are potentially very cheap if you have a static IP address already.

The Raspberry Pi can be used to run everything for very little money; Raspberry Pi Email Server.

I am not sure what performance would be like though. I am looking at using one as a DNS server and another as a syslog server.

Sarah

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Standard User RogerTheDodger
(newbie) Tue 05-Aug-14 09:53:29
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Your naivety is breathtaking - the 'I've nothing to hide' concept is ridiculous.
There is a simple and well presented piece in the link below which explains the fallacy of such a belief.

http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/the-data-trust-b...
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 05-Aug-14 10:10:09
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In reply to a post by RogerTheDodger:
Your naivety is breathtaking - the 'I've nothing to hide' concept is ridiculous.
There is a simple and well presented piece in the link below which explains the fallacy of such a belief.

http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/the-data-trust-b...

Could not agree more, cue Benjamin Franklin quote:
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Tue 05-Aug-14 11:19:28
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because isp based services are temporary, you leave the isp, they stop working, isp's can also at a whim stop those services, its not their core priority. Also these services can even be outsourced to yahoo and co anyway, so the downsides listed by robertos would still apply.

Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 05-Aug-14 12:47:01
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In reply to a post by merlin617:
Could not agree more, cue Benjamin Franklin quote:
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"

I can see both sides. If police intercepted email traffic and prevented your limbs being blown off by a terrorist in a bus bomb attack, would you be pleased?

Oliver.
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