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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 01-Sep-14 16:11:02
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Re: Beware of Rightmove


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
31 is nowhere near the green dot so that is really misleading. 31 is at the end of the street past the junction at Dee Avenue, and there are 4 houses there (2 on each side of the road) that are connected to the cabinet. So sorry to pluck hairs but the green dot is inacuratly placed. From Dee Avenue up everything is EO. Try addy 1 - say 28 (without looking at door nuumbers its hard to tell). So 4 houses out of 31 is 13%. So 87% are in the "black spot" and the exact centre is where the green dot is. There are also a cluster of EO lines in the culde sac behing where the green dot on esk road is. So basicly the green dot is in the centre of a bradband not spot.

Before I moved to the area I enquired with Openreach about Fibre availability and my isp both stating it will be available soon.

Does anyone have any exeriance in Openreach answering FOI requests ?
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(deleted) Mon 01-Sep-14 16:12:49
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Re: Beware of Rightmove


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In reply to a post by kasg:
I have the opposite problem, it says 1.25Mbps, even for properties close to an FTTC cab that has been enabled for over three years, when the reality is 76Mbps.


At least you guys can rectify that when advertising the property. Someone I work with has purchased a property real close to me, I dont think the garbage broadband speed despite what "checkers" say has sunk in yet lol
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 01-Sep-14 16:14:06
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Re: Beware of Rightmove


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FOI applies to public bodies. Openreach isn't one.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 01-Sep-14 16:14:48
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Re: Beware of Rightmove


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Advertising Standards Agency?

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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(deleted) Mon 01-Sep-14 16:17:29
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Re: Beware of Rightmove


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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
FOI applies to public bodies. Openreach isn't one.


Thats what I thought, I dont think there is any way to get Openreach to disclose EO info and percentages etc. Even if possible to hit them with an FOI they would get around it by saying it will cost too much to complie the data.

And I digress..........
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(staff) Mon 01-Sep-14 16:42:18
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Re: Beware of Rightmove


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Sorry but we can only plot the lat and lng that Ordnance Survey supply for postcodes we cannot go around walking every postcode and determining what looks like the local centre point.

The address posted is PART of KA1 3TQ and as I pointed out, I've manually reviewed the postcode and marked it now as an EO one. The automated processes are not infallible and with 1.7 million postcodes covering 27 million plus properties it is not easy to get the balance right all the time.

The postcodes split over EO and a cabinet are always the difficult ones, if the broadband speed is part of a property pack and supplied by the solicitor they should do a check down to the exact address and/or telephone number.

Postcode level checks can only ever be approximate because of the size of a postcode which varies, if someone knows of a database with the lat/lng of all 27 million UK properties I'd like to know.

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(deleted) Mon 01-Sep-14 16:59:04
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Re: Beware of Rightmove


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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Sorry but we can only plot the lat and lng that Ordnance Survey supply for postcodes we cannot go around walking every postcode and determining what looks like the local centre point.

The address posted is PART of KA1 3TQ and as I pointed out, I've manually reviewed the postcode and marked it now as an EO one. The automated processes are not infallible and with 1.7 million postcodes covering 27 million plus properties it is not easy to get the balance right all the time.

The postcodes split over EO and a cabinet are always the difficult ones, if the broadband speed is part of a property pack and supplied by the solicitor they should do a check down to the exact address and/or telephone number.

Postcode level checks can only ever be approximate because of the size of a postcode which varies, if someone knows of a database with the lat/lng of all 27 million UK properties I'd like to know.


It is amazing how suck a trivial thing as a small percentage changes the figure or real outlook of statistics. This is why I'm always banging on about how openreach will fudge the figures for the superfast roll out. The fact they cant even give the real % per area that are EO and exactly where they are is appauling as they have the info they just dont know how they wish to present it (as in hold it back and do some jiggery pokery to make it look how they want it too).

So tonight I shall sleep with the curtains open in the hope to see the mysterious green glowing light smile

But in all seriousness its one thing for the map here to be slightly inacurate, its a whole other ball game for a site selling houses to be so wrong.

So will there be any gaurentees that openreach have any accurate info ..........I doubt it
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(staff) Mon 01-Sep-14 17:09:02
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I have no idea how much rightmove paid for access to the data, but money is a big factor in the accuracy plus how long people are willing to wait for the actual data even if it is an estimate.

I don't agree with their UI that gives the impression an actual test is taking place.

At the end of the day the only accurate estimate will be to buy 27 million VDSL modems and hang them off of every phone line. Cost non-trivial.

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Mon 01-Sep-14 17:58:09
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In reply to a post by RossMcG:
I will share their response as I contacted them.



Would love to see their comments as they have ignored "complaints" before.


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(deleted) Mon 01-Sep-14 19:05:48
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I will share the comments.

Wow some of my comments disappear on here , strange ......
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