Did you take into account possibility of a property having more than one line? Which can change the statistics too.

You need to analyse more postcodes to be sure they are trying to cook the books.

Scotland does have some small exchanges that are totally Exchange Only but signs of some work in different areas is appearing, but with any large project the question is who is dealt with first.

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Did you take into account possibility of a property having more than one line? Which can change the statistics too.

You need to analyse more postcodes to be sure they are trying to cook the books.

Scotland does have some small exchanges that are totally Exchange Only but signs of some work in different areas is appearing, but with any large project the question is who is dealt with first.

Its difficult to quote exact figures due to openreach removing their checker, however I did go through a list of all EO lines in my area, there are 146 in total non inclusive of the farms which will be effected. From memory the story was similar for each section. Now considering the speeds are 1.5Mb - 2Mb I think chances are no one has a second line, there is someone who either has satelite or direct contact with a mothership (perhaps the wee green dot) as they have a huge dish.

A more plausable possibility is that their are un-used lines giving differing results. I cannot envisage anyone having 2 lines with the possibility of max 4Mb (possibly higher).

My speed is 3.3MBs, thats after about 15 engineer visits (those visits enforced my opinion on openreach). max speed I have had is 4.2MBs which lasted 6 months till their was a line fault (which took 4 engineers to find!).

I would love to get my hands on the exact figures.

I dont think they are cooking the books but any analyst will tell you that their are ways to slide figures in favour of your aim. They certainly arent using up to date information, and probably deliberately so.

Funny thing is there are 2 properties in the middle of the cluster that can get Fibre lol, and there are properties within 20 meters of a cabinet that cant get it. They must be raging.

Also regarding our statistics I know for a fact their is one property that doesnt have a telephone line.

On a side note why have they removed their checker?

Removed which checker precisely?

The exchange is 17000+ premises so you can see the priority if the Scottish target is 85% on fibre based, i.e. 146 can be ignored for a long time.

The second lines can just be for voice, fax or alarm or anything, they don't just look at people who have broadband.

The planning phases for the projects should partially account for oddities in their data and this can lead to corrections appearing when you look at specific areas over time.

At the end of the day current project means 1 in 7 homes in Scotland will still have ADSL/ADSL2+ at best. There is the 2Mbps USC but your speeds appear above that.

Most accurate checker I found is: http://community.fttc-check.alc.im/30-pcp-data-removed

And yup I am above the 2Mb threshhold but that took countless hours on the phone to the ISP support, at least 15 engineer visits and amazingly the engineer that did get the speed up and reliable (as before it was dreadful) was on his first day working as a broadband engineer. All other engineers were flippant and just said tough luck your EO and the fact the line is so long they didnt want to know.

You mention the project (I assume its the BDUK) however Digital Scotland say by 2017 98% of homes in my area will have access to superfast broadband as the local authority have chucked in a ton of cash. That superseeds the 1 in 7 (85%).

I know how it will play out, my little cluster of 146 homes will be that percentile who wont get because they dont need to give, I just want someone to come clean about it. At least openreach said off the bat that they will not be doing anything for those lines as it is not commercialy viable. I guess it is all politics though

However there are still those with <2mb (some are on the same pole as I am) so surely that means it is a not spot.

Just really want someone to tell the truth, line in the sand and move on (or move house if I could ever sell, already homes in the black spot arent selling and dropping prices. Mysteriously those that do get fibre are selling, so it has an effect.

The guy who started this petition had the right idea! : http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/45129

Okay that was NOTHING to do with Openreach, someone published data that was supplied to an ISP with a confidentiality notice most likely.

Having seen some of that data previously, it is not to be taken as gospel either.

The problem is that while I can say it does not look likely anything will happen for you. Who knows how the later phases of the project will play out, and with more money coming to go to a higher target the Scottish Government is going to have to address almost all the larger clusters of EO if its going to hit that 2017 objective.

Even the referendum might have an unknown effect.

It was far too informative to be owned by openreach, although not 100% it was the best I have certainly seen.

I am not sure if 146 properties (obviously a bit more if including neighbouring farms & countryside properties) would constitute as a large cluster.