Could be - thought that the increased upstream was only with ADSL2+ style services rather than the ADSL capped services.

ADSL Max has an 832kbps upstream option, normally only available on "business" products.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

In terms of leads

This lead on Amazon would fit the bill, the twisted pair is the key bit. No need for fancy gold or oxygen free stuff.

Thanks - have ordered one to try.

Jos

In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:

Is it possible that old line is on a legacy 'Up to 8 Meg' product?

Yes. I rang TalkTalk yesterday and the old line is the ADSL up to 8 Meg product and I was told it cannot be moved (the new line is on ADSL2). Don't know why I didn't ask why it can't be moved! But would it make that much difference? Looking at the figures we are about 4 miles from the exchange and graphs I've seen for the speed differences between ADSL 1 & 2 seem to converge at about 4 miles.

Best wishes,
Jos

I rang TalkTalk yesterday and they adjusted the DSL settings. He said that this may lead to more drop-outs, but it doesn't seem to have been a problem so far. The line seems a bit faster. Before he changed the setting yesterday the speed had dropped to about 0.4 Mbps (even though the bandwidth figure in the stats remained unchanged). Here are the current stats - sorry the up times are different.

OLD LINE

Uptime: 0 days, 11:56:21
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.1
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 896 / 2.560
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]: 41,44 / 512,84
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,7 / 17,6
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 31,5 / 56,5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 7,0 / 7,2
System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----
Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / IFTN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / -
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / -
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / -
Loss of Link (Remote): -
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 301 / -
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 1.083 / 1.573.902
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 212 / 252
HEC Errors (Up/Down): -12 / 252 / 1.675


NEW LINE

Uptime: 0 days, 20:51:20
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.3
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 904 / 3.339
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [GB/GB]: 1,34 / 1,99
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,7 / 0,0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 30,8 / 53,5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 5,5 / 6,4
System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----
Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / IFTN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 9 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 1 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): -
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 31.343 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 3.308 / 9.969
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 408 / 530
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 284 / 2.962


Thanks,
Jos

The speed dropping to 0.4Mb/s without the connection speed changing could suggest either errors on the line or congestion. It's possible that as it is on their old up to 8Mb/s service that it may use different parts of their network and they may be congested at times causing the slow downs.

The FEC errors are pretty high so that could be causing slowdowns whilst it is correcting them?

In reply to a post by Jos390:

(the new line is on ADSL2)

Do you mean ADSL2+? It is more normal that it is provisioned on ADSL2+ but happens to be running on ADSL2 as decided by the DLM.

In reply to a post by ian72:

The speed dropping to 0.4Mb/s without the connection speed changing could suggest either errors on the line or congestion. It's possible that as it is on their old up to 8Mb/s service that it may use different parts of their network and they may be congested at times causing the slow downs.

Thanks, I'll check again at busy times.

In reply to a post by ian72:

The FEC errors are pretty high so that could be causing slowdowns whilst it is correcting them?

The most recent stats were taken after TalkTalk changed the DSL settings. Could the increase in speed be causing the FEC errors?

Thanks,
Jos

In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:

In reply to a post by Jos390:

(the new line is on ADSL2)

Do you mean ADSL2+? It is more normal that it is provisioned on ADSL2+ but happens to be running on ADSL2 as decided by the DLM.

Yes, I think so.

Thanks,
Jos

Why do you keep changing the subject back to your nick? The Subject is supposed to be be informative about the matter being discussed which isn't yourself.