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Standard User bobble_bob
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 13-Apr-15 19:47:15
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You tried to do a ping test or similar to see if its packetloss? Not sure if speedtests really pickup any packetloss when showing you your download speeds, but you would certainly notice it when browsing
Standard User micksharpe
(legend) Mon 13-Apr-15 20:00:59
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All you need to detect REIN interference generated in the home is an AM radio tuned to 612kHz.

Yes, but lots of things make an audible noise on a radio and yet are not causing any interference.
An AM radio used as described will help you to identify possible culprits. By switching them off, you may be able to identify the actual culprit(s). Of course, it will be of no use if the cause of interference is the house wiring itself or is outside the house.

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Standard User bobble_bob
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 13-Apr-15 20:25:05
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How close to the wires would interference have to be to cause an impact on your connection?


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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 13-Apr-15 20:26:39
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If there's noise(s) present on the radio within the property, start by switching off the main fuse board. If it goes, all ancillary switches off, main switch back on, and put them back on one at a time till you've localised it. The individual trips are often labelled, so this can narrow it down too.

Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 13-Apr-15 20:28:17
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Depends how strong the source is, and how it's broadcast.

Standard User micksharpe
(legend) Mon 13-Apr-15 20:34:42
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How close to the wires would interference have to be to cause an impact on your connection?
I've never tried it so I can only say 'watch the video'. Anyway, it would be governed by the strength of the emissions and how much the internal cabling acts as an antenna. For the trick to work, the output from an appliance would have to be pretty gross (in the video, a power brick). One common error is to place the modem too close to a TV set.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 13-Apr-15 20:40:28
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Look what I just found on Ebay, a tad expensive, but the ideal companion for your tranny when hunting REIN.

Standard User micksharpe
(legend) Mon 13-Apr-15 20:47:40
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I can imagine all the OpenReach engineers flogging theirs and using their granny's radio. laugh

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 13-Apr-15 20:59:04
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Funny you say that ......... I do use my Nan's old Roberts.

Use the radio to hone in, and the 444 to say, yep, that's kicking out enough RF in the right frequency to cause the fault.

Standard User kwikbreaks
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 14-Apr-15 08:54:16
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I thought I recognised those as Speedtouch stats.

Here is what the old Be stats analysis has to say...

http://be.nfshost.com/

Expected download speed at your current sync rate: 636.59 KB per second (or 5093 kbit)

Expected upload speed at your current sync rate: 47.66 KB per second (or 381 kbit)

Problem: Downstream sync speed of 5984 kbit is 3549 kbit slower or 63 percent of the average for connections with the same downstream attenuation of 37.5dB.

Problem: Output power down (19.9dBm) is very high. Most common values are 17 to 19.5dBm.

Problem: Signal Noise Margin Down (9.5dB) is extremely high. Be* may have put you on this profile to compensate for a high error rate. If you know that your line is actually reliable, lowering the value to the average of 6dB should give a sync speed increase. Call Be* to change it (3dB steps only).

Problem: Signal Noise Margin Up (26dB) is higher than average and may be this high in order to compensate for current/previous high error rates.

Problem: There are some FEC Up errors. FEC errors are *corrected* errors, so these are probably nothing to worry about. Speedtouch routers have a habit of misreporting FEC errors anyway.


The usual cause of noise pickup is a non isolated ringwire - have you taken any steps to ensure you dont have one? Do you even know what it means?

If the "engineer" just looked at your router stats he may well have been mislead as I've seen Tomson/Speedtouch routers report many millions of FEC errors over a day.

Boosting the target noise margin may have fixed some CRC errors that were giving you grief but the real fix is to eliminate noise pickup. As your neighbours have no isues that suggests it is in your house and probably picked up by a ringwire.

Expect a bill from BT,
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