My choice was between AAISP and Zen

Based on this thread I am glad I chose the former!

In reply to a post by AAuser27:

My choice was between AAISP and Zen

Based on this thread I am glad I chose the former!

This thread is about Zen 8000 products - those using BT Wholesale 20CN. Backhaul is costly on this network. These price rises don't affect Zen's 21CN, own network (SMPF) ADSL2+ or FTTC products.


I have no doubt A&A have excellent products, but they are not cost-effective for my usage. I have 80/20 FTTC at full 80/20 sync speed with unlimited usage, which is simply not available from A&A.

The only thing is the A&A product that is missing from Zen that I care about is native IPv6 - using a tunnel is inferior, but it is almost as good. I long for the day I can drop the tunnel and switch to native IPv6, but the tunnel works well.

In reply to a post by David_W:

The only thing is the A&A product that is missing from Zen that I care about is native IPv6...

...and a 100GB per month ADSL option.

Well when my contract is up I might well go to Zen for their Unlimited FTTC. Zen wanted around £80 more to get me up and running on ADSL so I decided to go with A&A instead. I agree the usage limits are tight but whilst I am on ADSL I won't hit them ( I have 200GB this month )

In reply to a post by rich_jtg:

In reply to a post by David_W:

The only thing is the A&A product that is missing from Zen that I care about is native IPv6...

...and a 100GB per month ADSL option.

Zen do 500GB for around the same price I think?

There are more ISPs that have native IPv6 not just AAISP

In reply to a post by vivaciti:

There are more ISPs that have native IPv6 not just AAISP

Even Sky are trialling it now! Hopefully it's not like the Plusnet trial which drifted into obscurity and hasn't led to any concrete IPv6 plans for the whole userbase.

With you on this.

When I moved my A&A ADSL2+ service to a 40/10 FTTC service a few years ago now (moving house), it was painless. I even got a fault on the line during installation of some new flooring (I suspect first BT engineer install guy put a staple through the cable, and then when the flooring people were doing their skirting board stuff to hide the cable behind it, something got knocked). Anyway, the fault was fixed that same day.

I later realised why it was so quick - A&A by default provision business lines for their broadband (certainly for unit based packages, not sure about Home::1 - would need to check that) which means you always get super quick fault response/resolution as BT treat the line as a business line.

I had to move to Zen due to the peak-time usage issue. If I have a fault now, it will be the standard care level where it may take a couple of days for them to come out and fix.

I would move back to A&A if they offered some kind of unlimited package, but that peak-time usage is a killer.

Edited by deleted (Thu 23-Apr-15 14:14:00)

Yes I am with you on that also.

I can see I have an order going through to TalkTalk LLU and it shows as as business line. For me personally I do more uploading that down and that's recorded but not included so that's going to be my major advantage. I might check out Zen FTTC someday as now I can migrate.

I went back to ADSL2+ after being on cable for a few months and the quality was so poor in comparison.

In reply to a post by vivaciti:

There are more ISPs that have native IPv6 not just AAISP

7 according to http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ipv6