Ditto... although not 35 years.

Just had a look and:-

This line does not have left in jumpers.

No FTTC or LLU available from my 20CN exchange (EO) just ADSL.

My adsl line has 'This line does not have left in jumpers.'

My fibre line has 'This line has jumpers in place.'

Both with Zen for broadband & phone.

FYI

(A general response).

I think several people have been confused by Icaras's post.

In reply to a post by Icaras:

In reply to a post by caffn8me:

Is it possible that the jumpers previously connected ADSL service and were left in place when the line was moved to FTTC?

Yes. That's exactly what it means, left in jumpers in the cabinet from when the line had previously been FTTC.

If someone orders ADSL these will need removing by an engineer before the service will work. I'm not sure why the public need to know this though.

I think he meant to say either "from when the line had previously been ADSLx" or "from when the line had been upgraded to FTTC". Both mean the same, but I think he might have started with the second, changed it to the first, and made a mistake in the editing.

I too have the "This line has jumpers in place". BT Retail line and FTTC from Plusnet.

All the previous posts follow the pattern suggested by my version of his post.

Mine says "This line does not have left in jumpers." it only seems to be displayed when checking by a phone number and not by address.

I assume this gets changed when you get put on FTTC for easy switch back to ADSLx.

Still currently ADSLx and has always been that, although we have partly installed FTTP with all hardware in the Pit/Chamber and up pole just no blown fibre, been that way for a few years now, but is now due to be completed soon I hope.

Paul

Edited by PaulKirby (Sun 17-May-15 12:11:43)

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

(A general response).

I think several people have been confused by Icaras's post.

In reply to a post by Icaras:

In reply to a post by caffn8me:

Is it possible that the jumpers previously connected ADSL service and were left in place when the line was moved to FTTC?

Yes. That's exactly what it means, left in jumpers in the cabinet from when the line had previously been FTTC.

If someone orders ADSL these will need removing by an engineer before the service will work. I'm not sure why the public need to know this though.

I think he meant to say either "from when the line had previously been ADSLx" or "from when the line had been upgraded to FTTC". Both mean the same, but I think he might have started with the second, changed it to the first, and made a mistake in the editing.

I too have the "This line has jumpers in place". BT Retail line and FTTC from Plusnet.

All the previous posts follow the pattern suggested by my version of his post.

No I didn't mention ADSL jumpers. It's hard to explain because it's not something that the public should have any knowledge of, it isn't necessary.

We call the wires in the cabinet linking to the FTTC tie pairs "jumpers". So if the checker says your line has jumpers it means you probably currently have an FTTC connection.

Alternatively, it means your physical line in the cabinet still has left in FTTC jumpers. These will stop ADSL from working as your line is still connected to the fibre cabinet. These "left in FTTC jumpers" need removing before ADSL will work. I know exactly what I'm trying to say but it's hard to explain, if there's anything you don't understand I'll do my best to clarify for you.

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

So it means the line has FTTC on it?

No, it means that your line is physically connected by jumpers to the FTTC cabinet. So the previous person who used your E-side (the cable from the exchange to the cabinet), or your D-side (the cable from the cabinet to your house) had an active FTTC service.

Edited by deleted (Sun 17-May-15 12:53:31)

I am seeing jumpers in place message on a line that has an active VDSL connection.

I also see a message saying:
"This line does not have left in jumpers."
On a line that never had FTTC but does have adslMax.

Tom - www.mouselike.org

Edited by deleted (Sun 17-May-15 12:57:49)

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

I notice the BT Wholesale DSL checker www.dslchecker.bt.com has started declaring "This line has jumpers in place.". Does anyone know what this means and why it's important?

Mine also says FTTP on Demand is available. Does that mean it is or that the checker has not been updated to reflect that new orders are not being taken?

Edited by Andrue (Sun 17-May-15 13:10:20)

I know it's difficult, but "That's exactly what it means, left in jumpers in the cabinet from when the line had previously been FTTC" is what has caused confusion.

That says the message "jumpers are in place" occurs only after FTTC has been removed.

My change to that says it occurs when FTTC is present.

What I think you are now saying is that my version is always true, and your version also true until the jumpers are removed to allow ADSLx. A line that has never had FTTC won't have jumpers in place.

Isn't yours a different question altogether, and not related to the quote you give? FTTPoD hasn't been mentioned in the thread.

Anyway, AIUI the "Available" never went away on the BTW checker. But I haven't seen any mention of orders being taken again by Openreach.