How about the video/non-video balance in this report? It demonstrates exactly my point about the written part being merely an expanded headline.

The pictorial content is not really necessary.

The The Sky report. Compare and contrast both the written and the video.

Edited by RobertoS (Thu 11-Jun-15 01:05:25)

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

How about the video/non-video balance in this report? It demonstrates exactly my point about the written part being merely an expanded headline.

That is not the main article! It is the evening news video report added to the site, linked under the Video/Audio or Watch/Listen sections. As I explained, there have always been a small number of news pieces which are primarily video or audio reports. The writing is clearly not a report, it is just a brief summary intended to introduce the video or audio.

The main article, linked from the headline, is here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-33063838

I don't know how you got to the main article, as it isn't linked to from the mini-report accompanying the video. Nor from any headline I came across.

Moving on from that, this one may as well be on twitter. No links, nothing useful, rubbish.

What is it that you keep failing to understand?

I can only explain it one last time. These are video or audio reports, often taken from BBC News/Documentary TV or radio broadcasts. The BBC is a broadcaster not a print newspaper so it makes sense to include this additional content on the News site for people to watch. You may not find them interesting or useful, but many do. The text is just an introduction, the report or item of interest is the video or audio. They are listed and linked under sections called "Video/Audio" or "Watch/Listen". Stop clicking on these if you don't want to see them.

They are not main articles. If you click on a headline, you get a normal length report, they are all still there. (As I said, this is how the main report in my previous post was accessible, whereas the video report you moan about was unsurprisingly under the Watch/Listen section).

You completely fail to get the point I am making!!!!

I just pointed out that in the previous case, where I would have liked more information than was available from the place I had got to, there was no way. I agree it was an introduction.

There was no link at all to the article to which it was an introduction!

In both cases I was interested. In neither case was there any help as to where to look next.

The first case gave a little information. This latest one none at all.

That is my point. It is rubbish reporting. Far worse even than supermarkets shuffling their shelving with the intent of you seeing something you normally don't whilst looking for the moved product you buy regularly .

I dispute your claim that in both mini-reports there was a link to the main article. There wasn't. At least not when using IE11.

If there are links using some other browser that just strengthens my point. The new website is very poor on computers, as opposed to phones or perhaps tablets.

Edit - relevant extract from the source "<p>Bryony Mackenzie reports. </p>
<div class="related-items full-width"> <h2>Read more</h2> <article> <div class="article-inner article-story-alsos"> <a href="/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-32831546"><span class="cta">Cambridge Mackays dummy gets 3D-printed hand after theft</span></a> "

I've also taken a screenshot, but the source ought to be more than enough to show the "Read more" doesn't have a link.

Edit 2:- No link from the tempter to the main article using Chrome either.

Edited by RobertoS (Sat 13-Jun-15 23:35:38)

OK - some progress!

Using IE11, the picture is just that. A picture. Then

Kent schoolgirl's friends say her 3D hand is 'cool'

13 June 2015 Last updated at 08:40 BST

A school girl from Kent, who was born with only one hand, has had a new one specially built for her by her classmates.

Lara Pincott says the colourful 3D printed hands are proving a big hit with her friends.

Bryony Mackenzie reports.

Read more
Cambridge Mackays dummy gets 3D-printed hand after theft

where the last line is a link to a different article altogether.

Using Chrome, the picture is cleafrly a video link. I found that video quite interesting, and wouldn't have wanted any further info.

However, as stated in my second edit above, there is still no link to any main article.

I think you are confused.

These video or audio reports are NOT introductions to a written report. They are items in their own right. I meant that the text accompanying the video/audio is an introduction to the video/audio. They are not "mini-reports" either, let's be clear.

There may in fact be no written report or other item whatsoever, I know for example this was the case with my sister's reports as they were her own research. Sometimes though there will of course be multiple pieces on one news topic and usually there is a link between them, so you are right one should have been included for the ovary video report to the written report.

I never said both video reports had links to written reports. I said the ovary written report was the one you got to by clicking on the headline, by headline I mean the main headline that existed in the News page or Health News page. The video report you got to by clicking on the video icon and title in the Watch/Listen section.

No.

You are just fixated on an erroneous belief that the website is wonderful and that anyone who doesn't believe is a heretic.

When you come across a taster, then it is ridiculous not to provide a link to the main course. End of.

Quite apart from the new discovery that the 3D hand for the girl has a video link in Chrome, but no suggestion of that video in IE11.

It's a bad site, in concept and in execution.

Edit:
Uh uh!

A copy of the URL in IE11 to IE11 gives a version with the video ?????

Edited by RobertoS (Sat 13-Jun-15 23:56:09)

Right - more progress.

Clicking the link to the girl with the 3D hand was not giving a video. A refresh of the page, which should reload it rather than access a cached version also fails to give the video.

Closing all tabs and then IE, then reopening it and these forums and clicking that link does give the video version. Very strange. Bearing in mind that at the time of my original linking to it the comprehensive video we now have was not present. I feel there was an elementary one but I'm not sure. I may be thinking of the Cambridge one.

When you first followed the link, did you have the riding a bicycle video?

No, the video report has not changed. It has always been 2 mins 11 secs long, starts with the girl riding her bike, and was like that earlier in the day when I watched before you even posted, the page also confirms last updated in the morning of yesterday.

I think it's clear you have problems with the website which have coloured your opinion on these video reports. I have addressed the 'link to the written report problem', but you didn't seem to pay attention. I still don't understand why you are even clicking on these reports in the first place if you don't want to see them - they are identifiable before you click, so just don't go the video/audio reports!