Wherever it was, it is back up this morning. messed around with three routers till about 2:00am - All showing internet connected, but displaying a "link down" message at the web interface.

That's correct, just after 2:00pm. Was still down at 2:00am. Not sure when back up as reset router and did not make it pingable till 7:30am.
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/8e91c271f27...

They are OK. I doubt I would find another CD who would be on the phone half the afternoon trying to help, Suppose he could have put a shilling in the meter around 5:00am lol

If you look at the makeup of TT, i think that even a pigeon could be involved lol - Expect all the same though.
http://bgp.he.net/AS13285#_peers

Little wonder I am confused, as I find many conflabs here go that way lol - Speedtest.net still shows as Tiscali (TT owned) despite TT fibre IP address - Does that put another cat among the pigeons ?
A test for you all - Download PingPlotterPro, then target www.talktalk.co.uk, www.bbc.co.uk and www.google.com. Post results here. i am betting 100% packet loss on hop 8, just after the as13285 TT hops.
https://www.pingplotter.com/pro.html

Edited by professor973 (Thu 16-Jul-15 08:56:48)

I sure as hell was not the only person to have fibre problems from afternoon yesterday till this morning. Take a look at a "premium" ISP before rubbishing mine.
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/e7ee706db3c...

Seems his problems are identical to mind, even back from ADSL - Few good days, few bad days, red spikes and certain times involved.
http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/t/4420350-re-...

Edited by professor973 (Thu 16-Jul-15 09:50:05)

Unrelated to what I was saying...

Vivaciti don't use TTB LLU!

Also the user who graph you have quoted has always had issues though not as bad as that yesterday,

Also I didn't say Pulse8 was rubbish... I was saying that were still not sure what setup pulse8 use and that something seems fishy with regards to its "supposedly" being a TTB LLU service but yet a BT "core" issue can affect it?

Also the BQM you quoted... was this using BT or was it using an LLU?

Sorry, was a false alarm. Samknows was just behind on updating the graph and the connection was up and running. And I'm still on BT - only checked because the subject of the OP was "BT Outage".

I didn't say they did! - Look back, and you will see I have ALSO had ongoing issues from ADSL that have continued on VDSL, just like the user I pointed out. That was my point. Looking back, will also show that I stated Pulse8 said a BT issue was showing. You will also see that I stated 'To the best of my memory', so the word 'Core' may well be more of my making than Pulse8.
To think that a simple request to see if anyone else had an outage turned into such a chimp's tea party is laughable. As usual a bunch of anoraks, each convinced they are the only one correct. Still better than the fools lantern these days for entertainment.

Edited by professor973 (Thu 16-Jul-15 10:42:51)

So your posting of incorrect information regarding a "core" fault with BT was incorrect then and is what mislead the discussion on this thread... in this case I will take back most things I've said above.

I'm aware that you have had line issues for some time and that thanks to Pulse8 these have been finally fixed... I'm glad they managed to fix an issues that another ISP couldn't be arsed too.