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Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 24-Oct-15 15:48:36
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Edit - Ah, they probably need the full number of the bank card.

They'd need both the chip and the pin.

Oliver.
Standard User keith969
(member) Sat 24-Oct-15 17:03:12
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Mine are all in an encrytped Excel sheet on a PC protected by its own password.. They change regularly, so I can't remember some of the more obscure ones. A lot of them are the same (except bank ones) as its hard maintaing 150 passwords for different sites that really aren't a security risk. I certainly don't write them down.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 24-Oct-15 17:32:20
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Yes smile.

There are many ways of (relatively) securing our usernames and passwords. The point of my post was the idiocy of I assume many thousands or even millions of people who think like the one that said "Like every other person in this country ...."

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
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Standard User Michael_Chare
(experienced) Sat 24-Oct-15 18:07:00
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For instance, my RBS and IOM Bank (an RBS subsidiary) card readers use the same algorithm to calculate the response key. I expect NatWest also use it.

NW, Barclays and Nationwide card readers are interchangable. When the Barclays one arrived I was told something like that.

Michael Chare
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 24-Oct-15 18:22:20
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Presumably that means all 5 are, so probably Lloyds as well.

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
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Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 24-Oct-15 18:23:51
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NW, Barclays and Nationwide card readers are interchangable. When the Barclays one arrived I was told something like that.

Yes, their purpose is purely to feed the PIN into the chip and read the response. There's no "secret stuff" going on inside the card reader at all.

Oliver.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 24-Oct-15 18:26:51
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The latest is that apparently TalkTalk cyber attack 'smaller than originally thought'

Let's hope so, but the damage might have already been done to TalkTalk's reputation.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 24-Oct-15 18:40:30
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Yes, their purpose is purely to feed the PIN into the chip and read the response. There's no "secret stuff" going on inside the card reader at all.
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My two calculate a result from a code supplied online, for me to enter on the bank website. It does a lot more than check the pin number.

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
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Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 24-Oct-15 18:49:02
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My two calculate a result from a code supplied online, for me to enter on the bank website. It does a lot more than check the pin number.

Yes, the card's chip is like a mini computer, it takes the PIN, runs an algorithm on it, then outputs the result to the reader. The reader doesn't do any processing.

Oliver.
Standard User bobble_bob
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 24-Oct-15 18:52:42
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I doubt it. The Playstation network hack was/is the biggest ever data theft but hasnt effected the sale of the PS4. Quite the opposite infact

People are quick to forget
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