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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 10-Jan-16 19:56:32
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Re: BT new line wall sockets issue with ADSL


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Do you mean if you remove it but also replace the smaller bottom part?

How many wires are connected to that smaller bottom part?

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
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(deleted) Sun 10-Jan-16 20:24:09
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Re: BT new line wall sockets issue with ADSL


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That all makes perfect sense. If you do run a separate data line and connect it to the unfiltered IDCs on the Interstitial plate or connect via the DSL port, the simplest thing is to look for a VDSL extension kit making sure it's got twisted pair wiring. CW1308 spec is usual.

Something like this (but there are many others).

http://www.claritybroadband.co.uk/clxcart/BT-Openrea...

Generally you get very close to the speed at the master socket with this sort of extension.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 10-Jan-16 20:26:55
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I think I'd guarantee that's with the lower part reattached. Even if an engineer connected the extension wire to the back of the master socket (very, very unlikely), it would not explain why the ADSL service to the extension failed when the Interstitial plate was put inline.


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 10-Jan-16 20:42:55
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Re: BT new line wall sockets issue with ADSL


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In reply to a post by gocat2005:
He connected the Blue wire to Pin 5 and White/Blue wire to Pin 2.
This sounds like internal extension wiring. The master socket connection should be to A and B not 5 and 2.
Standard User PaulKirby
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 11-Jan-16 09:54:25
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Re: BT new line wall sockets issue with ADSL


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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
In reply to a post by gocat2005:
He connected the Blue wire to Pin 5 and White/Blue wire to Pin 2.
This sounds like internal extension wiring. The master socket connection should be to A and B not 5 and 2.
I think people are getting their wires crossed (pardon the pun tongue).

I think they are referring to their extension wiring, which is correct, and if the router is connected to the extension with a micro-filter then it will work, but only if the DSL filter face plate is removed and the phone face plate has been reconnected, this is due to the extension has been filtered from the line so no DSL signals will be present.

Now if they wanted to change their extension to a DSL data-extension they would connect the extension wire from the 2 and 5 connections (phone face plate) to the A and B terminals on the DSL faceplate shown in *** this *** image, but it would have to depend on what dsl filter they are using.

This would result in the extension being an unfiltered extension and either only the router would be connected or a micro-filter will have to be used.
But I would use a dsl micro-filter on the extension anyhow just in case.

Paul
Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Mon 11-Jan-16 11:45:27
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Re: BT new line wall sockets issue with ADSL


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Lets just keep this basic.

Should you use your router on an extension - No.
Is it filtered off for a reason - yes.

What to do. Keep it in the correct socket, unless you want possible instability and slow speeds.
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(deleted) Mon 11-Jan-16 13:08:19
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There is no problem at all with running a modem/router off an extension provided that the extension is installed correctly using the right cable and filtering off any other extensions. The loss of speed is trivial for the length of extension you need in most domestic properties. I've done this for many years, and so have countless others.

The problem here is that the OP has an Interstitial plate (as we've now determined) and that the existing extension wiring isn't ideal. Sort that out (albeit with some effort) and there's no reason why performance shouldn't be perfectly acceptable.

We can do without misleading generalisations such as you gave which is demonstrably wrong with proper design. There are many reasons why somebody might wish to run a modem/router away from the master socket, such as availability of power sockets, space, easy wired LAN access for PCs/NAS better location for a WiFi node (upstairs locations are often better).
Standard User PaulKirby
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 11-Jan-16 15:50:21
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In reply to a post by TheEulerID:
There are many reasons why somebody might wish to run a modem/router away from the master socket, such as availability of power sockets, space, easy wired LAN access for PCs/NAS better location for a WiFi node (upstairs locations are often better).
Agreed.

We use to have our HH4 (Type A) located downstairs connected to my NTE5A Master Socket, however Wi-Fi wouldn't work upstairs at the back of the house, plus there is no close power socket near there anyhow, we had to use a power extension, which I think is silly if we can relocate the actual modem/router.

So I wired in a data extension to the DSL Faceplates A and B Terminals using CAT5e cable under our floor up to our landing upstairs (i.e. middle of house) and Wi-Fi is now accessible throughout the house, and we have not seen any speed decrease at all, well nothing noticeable that is.

And I will be doing the same once out FTTP is done/completed.

Paul
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