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Standard User bobble_bob
(knowledge is power) Sun 31-Jan-16 14:54:33
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Re: Mystery of an ethernet cable


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The other cable that runs to the main bedroom is terminated with ethernet

My sister will be getting Sky to do a change of address on Tues. She has a built in modem/router from Sky. Is it best to plug it into tge master socket or will the filtered faceplate in the living room be ok?
Standard User keith969
(member) Sun 31-Jan-16 15:19:16
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In reply to a post by eckiedoo:
Regarding the Cable Finder, keep in mind that most are mini metal detectors, helping to find nails, metal water pipes etc.


Many years ago I had a socket in the living room and wanted to find out where the connection led to. I had a signal generator tuned to just below the LW band, and a homebrew signal strength meter. Was relatively easy to trace it up into the loft where once it must have connected to an aerial.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 31-Jan-16 16:29:36
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Impossible to advise. You started with Ethernet cables coming out of walls, which may have Ethernet plugs or loose Ethernet sockets (normally for extending Ethernet cable runs) on the end, but now you talk about filtered faceplates that may or may not be on master sockets and "terminating with Ethernet. In a house that has had FTTC.

I have no idea what your wiring layout is from your descriptions sorry.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 31-Jan-16 16:46:28
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These Ethernet cables that come out of the wall - have they had wall-mounted sockets on them that have been removed by the previous owners - taking them with them?

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Standard User bobble_bob
(knowledge is power) Sun 31-Jan-16 17:38:11
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Sorry not great at explaining stuff. Dont know for certain but no i dont think they had wall mounted sockets on them.

Will try again with abit more detail - as you enter the house through the main door on the floor there is a master socket. Turn right and enter the living room there is another master socket (possibly for when they had 2 phone lines). Then on the other side of the living room there is another socket with a filtered faceplace. The note the previous owners left said they plugged their fibre into this socket (not sure if it was modem/router combined tho).

About 30cm from this filtered faceplace there are 2 ethernet cables coming out from the wall - one grey and one blue. The grey one goes upstairs and is plugged into a Sky Box that the previous owners left. The blue one i dont know where it ends up
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 31-Jan-16 17:52:17
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When you say "comes out of the wall", what do you mean? Just hangs there with bare wires showing? It's very unusual having wires out through the plaster.

How long are they?

Theory begins to look like modem + router or a combo modem/router on a table where those wires are, both cables plugged into the router LAN sockets. Blue one as a couple of us have suggested perhaps to a WAP (Wireless Access Point) in the loft.

One of the master sockets presumably has the Openreach FTTC filter plate? I expect that feeds the extension socket they used from the A/B terminals on the front of it - you would be able to see this if you gently remove the ordinary faceplate of that master.

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Edited by RobertoS (Sun 31-Jan-16 17:53:22)

Standard User bobble_bob
(knowledge is power) Sun 31-Jan-16 18:01:23
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When you say "comes out of the wall", what do you mean? Just hangs there with bare wires showing? It's very unusual having wires out through the plaster.


Yeah. Im not there now to take a picture but its quite crudely done (suspect they had a table or something in the corner so couldnt see the hole in the wall). Both cables have the ethernet ends so can connect into a router, but they're about 15-20cm long out from the wall.

There are 3 wall sockets in total. The 1 near the floor next to the front door and the one just as you enter the living room look like this. The one at the other end of the living room is the one that has the Openreach FTTC filter plate and looks like this

Not sure why 1 of the other 2 didnt just have the filtered faceplate fitted rather than having a 3rd socket on the wall

Edited by bobble_bob (Sun 31-Jan-16 18:04:14)

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 31-Jan-16 18:26:32
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In reply to a post by bobble_bob:
Not sure why 1 of the other 2 didnt just have the filtered faceplate fitted rather than having a 3rd socket on the wall
Because of where they wanted the modem & router to connect those other cables . It might have been an ordinary extension previously with ADSLx running happily there.

I would be looking inside the other two masters, (or just the one that still has a phone connection if either does), to make sure you haven't got two active masters. The one they used and the one it is connected to.

Has your sister got the phone connected and working? If so, does it work in the third one?

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Standard User bobble_bob
(knowledge is power) Sun 31-Jan-16 18:38:36
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She isnt having a landline phone in the house so unless i go over tomorrow with a phone no way to test yet, and fibre doesnt get activated at her address until Sky come out to the cabinet on Tues to switch it over. Although she is having calls with Sky too so suspect they may activate them both together?

If she isnt having a landline would it be best to plug the model/router into the master socket near the main door of the house, or the filtered faceplate in the living room?

Edited by bobble_bob (Sun 31-Jan-16 18:41:32)

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 31-Jan-16 19:26:44
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If there have been two lines before, the problem is which physical one will be used.

One will be connected through one of the two original masters to the third one the previous people used. The other will go to the other master. Unless someone has done some really esoteric wiring.

How is she going to have Sky calls if she isn't having a Sky landline? Are they letting her have the line rental with someone else for some reason?

Or do you just mean she isn't having a physical landline phone to plug in anywhere? If so, it is a very good idea to get a cheap corded one from Argos, Maplin, B & Q or wherever - typically under £7, and stick it in a cupboard out of the way. For diagnostics now or in the future if there is ever a problem.

Re which to use, back to my earlier post as well as this one. We don't know what socket(s) will be live. So nobody can advise.

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