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Standard User kebabselector
(member) Tue 21-Jun-16 14:07:42
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Re: Old BT Junction Box - What should i do with it? :)


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In reply to a post by MHC:
NO.

It is not your property to interfere with.



I moved/tidied up mine, figured it's in my house so why should I have to pay someone to enter my property and move something they badly installed in the first place.

Likewise, when I ditched Virgin I cut the cable entering my property.

Current on Zen, getting around 5mb down - .8mb up
Exchange is Fibre enabled, Cab not economically viable to upgrade - though 'Now Exploring Solutions aka we want someone else to pay for it.'
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 21-Jun-16 14:22:01
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Presumably you would also move/cut the gas pipes? The contract with BT covers this - whether it is in your house or not it is still their property.
Standard User Malwaremike
(committed) Tue 21-Jun-16 15:40:47
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Friendly BT engineer's advice to anyone tempted to cut their phone cable for repositioning or whatever: you wouldn't cut a live mains cable in one pass because the cutting blade would short-circuit the two or three conductors therein. Similarly your phone cable contains one or two pairs of wires which if short-circuited may damage the equipment in the exchange.

If you really must perform this illegal operation, strip back the outer casing and cut each wire one at a time. But my friend has seen more than one DIY disaster and strongly advises against it.


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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Tue 21-Jun-16 18:15:29
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Perhaps you would like to experience a 400v shock when touching telecoms equipment where someone had wired up something incorrectly?

As others mention: every service provider has a demarcation point - gas, electrics, water, telecoms and you cannot interfere with anything before that point and potentially afterwards.


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Standard User MC31
(newbie) Wed 22-Jun-16 20:01:51
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"Similarly your phone cable contains one or two pairs of wires which if short-circuited may damage the equipment in the exchange."

LOL no it will not.

these comments are my own and in no way represent any company that i may or may not be linked too.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 22-Jun-16 21:20:49
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Of course it won't, and you know it. It would be just as easy to create the a short circuit in your household wiring as that's essentially the same two wires (and a derived ring line) with the same nominal 48V DC on it. Also, short circuits happen all the time - the equipment is designed to deal with it.

The real reason why the OR cabling shouldn't be tampered with is nothing to do with that, but to define a "clean" demarcation point where the responsibility of the supplier ends and that of the consumer begins. If it was open season on OR cabling, then it could cause all sorts of costs and disputes over who was responsible for any faults in that area.
Standard User kebabselector
(member) Wed 22-Jun-16 21:30:22
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No I wouldn't touch a gas pipe or the incoming electricity supply. This is just a low voltage cable.

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Exchange is Fibre enabled, Cab not economically viable to upgrade - though 'Now Exploring Solutions aka we want someone else to pay for it.'
Standard User Michael_Chare
(experienced) Wed 22-Jun-16 22:37:22
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In reply to a post by TheEulerID:
The real reason why the OR cabling shouldn't be tampered with is nothing to do with that, but to define a "clean" demarcation poimake nt where the responsibility of the supplier ends and that of the consumer begins. If it was open season on OR cabling, then it could cause all sorts of costs and disputes over who was responsible for any faults in that area.

So if a house is star wired, where is the demarcation point?

I would argue that Ofcom should make BT provide a master socket with a detachable faceplate FOC.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 22-Jun-16 22:42:49
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No I wouldn't touch a gas pipe or the incoming electricity supply. This is just a low voltage cable.

So because you perceive the risk as reduced that makes it OK ?

So If I come round and unplug your freezer, that's OK ? There's little or no chance of me harming myself, a good chance I might not get caught, what harm could it do ?

Your logic is flawed.

Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 22-Jun-16 22:48:50
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I would argue that Ofcom should make BT provide a master socket with a detachable faceplate FOC.

I think the DVLC should make garages come and fit anti lock brakes on all cars without it FOC ...... ?????

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