but if I rented it, I would expect it to come with anti lock brakes.

And if it didn't ?

I think the DVLC should make garages come and fit anti lock brakes on all cars without it FOC ...... ?????

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

but if I rented it, I would expect it to come with anti lock brakes.

And if it didn't ?

I think the DVLC should make garages come and fit anti lock brakes on all cars without it FOC ...... ?????

That might depend when I found out!

In reply to a post by TheEulerID:

You should differentiate between star wiring and extensions wired directly from the master. The "star wiring" is simply an internal extension network system which contrasts with a "daisy chained" topology, and it's possible to have a combination. Either can be implemented by direct wiring from the back of an old master (with or without socket), from the front socket of a master or via the faceplate IDC extension connectors.

I thought the term star was used to describe situations where there is a junction box to provide a split to a second socket, before the master socket.

In reply to a post by TheEulerID:

To return to the point of direct-wired master extensions, these are historical and will be swapped out as faults are found and/or when there is cause for any other engineering work. The legislation for this was set out prior to BT's privatisation in 1984 as part of the network liberalisation process. There was no provision for changing existing wiring pre-emptively due to the costs involved, and I'm not sure that Ofcom have the power to compel OR to do this (if so, the costs involved would have to be built into the regulatory pricing model).

I don't claim to know exactly what powers OFCOM has at the moment. However the situation has changed since the '80s. BT's bacon has probably been saved by the introduction of DSL technologies, despite the onslaught of mobile phones. But DSL technologies make the positioning of sockets much more critical. If BT want to charge much the same for providing a new style master socket as fixing a fault they can hardly be surprised if some of their customers just do the work themselves. They could offer a 2 week FOC service to make it easier to allocate staff.

Sorry about the delayed response - I do understand your point. The incoming cable is Openreach property, so I understand I shouldn't touch it.

Take one large hammer hit it, then report it was broke when you moved in and get them to send or out OR chap as your voice phone does not work, then ask for it to be moved when they come to fix it,

In reply to a post by APTMAN:

... as your voice phone does not work ....

Wossa non-voice phone guv?

Presumably one that you use only for this or a textphone as used by the deaf