Are we any closer to Naked DSL with this or further away?

Further away.

What this does is tell us even less about the skulduggery that most are conned by.

Maybe we need an end-user or consumer facing division in Openreach. They rent out or lease a line to anyone that requires it - costs are covered by pricing above ORs wholesale rate. Operators then cannot mark up the costs and everyone knows exactly what they are paying. Then customers get a full choice about who they want to use for voice and who for BB services and pay to those independently. Total transparency and it would take a layer out of the retail model.

Great idea. Should we start a petition to Parliament?

Muted this a few times, prices might go up to allow for Openreach to bill and deal with millions rather than 300 to 500 firms

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Muted this a few times, prices might go up to allow for Openreach to bill and deal with millions rather than 300 to 500 firms

Muted or Mooted?

Price might go up however that may not take it above the levels being charged. After all, each of those resellers has to mark-up to cover their own costs and profit. If OR did it, there would be no billing of resellers, thus saving a small amount and only ONE lot of profit to be made - OR only rather than OR and then more for the resellers.

Plus several current SPs can sell line rental + POTS for £13 or less, with dramatically lower call charges than big boys, (in the order of 1ppm with per second billing and no call setup charges), and presumably make a profit.

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I think this actually plays into the hands of Openreach, since the ability for people to moan about paying £X for line rental and getting nothing back suddenly vanishes.

That sounds about right.
We get a lot less now for a higher price, a lot of the time we do not even get free calls now, gone back to how it used to be years ago. I know line rental have to be paid, but the price is way over the top.

this deal from Vodafone will look good on paper, but it is not that great a deal, also they still will not allow people to use their own routers, By all accounts they router they supply is not that great.

Sounds almost like the big players are running a cartel - that couldn't happen though with the ravenous beast that is ofcom overseeing them all.