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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 11-Oct-16 20:51:12
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Praise the lord
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Oops! Sorry. After resigning with a large payoff before they get sacked.

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(deleted) Tue 11-Oct-16 22:37:00
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It was more aimed at the fact we may now see some different content in the posts from Mr Kirby, although I suspect they'll be along the lines of "not getting 300mbps all the tkme"... wink
Standard User PaulKirby
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 12-Oct-16 01:16:00
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It was more aimed at the fact we may now see some different content in the posts from Mr Kirby, although I suspect they'll be along the lines of "not getting 300mbps all the tkme"... wink

LOL, excuse me, most of my posts wasn't even about my connection, most was replies helping people tongue

Anyhow that shouldn't really happen, the fibre in the splitter gets split up into 32 strands, only 4 (including ours) will be in use for the time being, 2 of them are only using 52Mbps, not too sure what the old lady 4 doors from us has.

But I worked it out as if every body (i.e. 32 connections) had infinity 4 and all 32 connections hammered their connection all would get a maximum speed of 78.125Mbps which is a hell of a lot better than out ADSL connection that has trouble running You Tube.

That won't happen due to they have only plumbed in 12 fibres from the splitter to our dp and everybody else between our dp and our splitter are not going to get FTTP for some reason, and that they are to be put on their new system when it starts, I was told by an engineer that it will be G.FAST when they roll it out to our area, it seems that our exchange is used a lot for trials.

So that's a 2.5Gbps fibre strand split up into just 12 fibres, so that's 208Mbps, unless they reduce the bandwidth down that fibre which they might.

I was also told the remaining 12K lines on our exchange that was originally down for FTTP which was halted in mid install will be moved over to G.FAST.

That's what I was told by a couple of engineers, not too sure if that is true or not.

But either way its better that what we have now LOL.

Paul


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(deleted) Wed 12-Oct-16 15:50:25
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I was also told the remaining 12K lines on our exchange that was originally down for FTTP which was halted in mid install will be moved over to G.FAST.


Interesting.

Unless everyone on the exchange is within 300m of the PCP, that suggests some of the G.Fast infrastructure is going to be placed deeper into the network than "just" the PCPs.
Standard User PaulKirby
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 12-Oct-16 16:59:55
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I was also told the remaining 12K lines on our exchange that was originally down for FTTP which was halted in mid install will be moved over to G.FAST.


Interesting.

Unless everyone on the exchange is within 300m of the PCP, that suggests some of the G.Fast infrastructure is going to be placed deeper into the network than "just" the PCPs.

Well I know our PCP Cabinet is about ~432m from our phone pole (actual cable route), so where the rest of our road has been down graded to FTTC (so I was told) and then over to G.FAST.

Oh?
They should be getting the following depending on their distance:

Distance  Performance target[B]
<100m	  500�1000 Mbit/s 
100m	  500 Mbit/s 
200m	  200 Mbit/s 
250m	  150 Mbit/s 
500m	  100 Mbit/s

So 500m lines should see around 80 down and 20 up (i.e. 100 Mbps combined) on G.FAST, where as with FTTC it would be lucky to get about 30Mbps if that.

So the other two poles (I thought there was 3 other poles from ours, but there was 2) should get around 100 to 125Mbps going by the above graph and the following distances from the PCP to the relevant poles:

Phone pole 1: 349m
Phone pole 2: 293m


So I am thinking they will be fine, due to the FTTP hardware is there for them, but I think openreach wants the rest on our exchange to no longer get FTTP, probably due to cost, not too sure if the remaining will still be part of the commercial rollout, I know they was back in 2011, but I have see a few cabs get done as part of LEP, so maybe the 12K lines over 30 to 40 PCP, some are partially done as FTTP, so if the remaining 12K lines get put as FTTC or G.FAST we will start to see PCP's being listed as FTTP + FTTC or FTTP + G.FAST, which would be interesting to see.

Paul
Standard User PaulKirby
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 13-Oct-16 11:21:44
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Well finally after 4 or so years the external work has been completed and we now have a lovely Grey CSP Box on our wall.

And on their hand tool we have a signal level of 14dB at my CSP Box, I assume thats good, not really played with fibre since 25+ years.

Had a nice chat with the engineers while they worked.

So now I have just to wait to the 19th for the internal work.

Paul

Edited by PaulKirby (Thu 13-Oct-16 11:23:24)

Standard User MHC
(sensei) Thu 13-Oct-16 11:36:03
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And on their hand tool we have a signal level of 14dB at my CSP Box, I assume thats good, not really played with fibre since 25+ years.

Paul


14dB - relative to what?

dBu, dBm, dbW or even dBM ?


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Standard User PaulKirby
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 13-Oct-16 11:46:06
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In reply to a post by PaulKirby:
And on their hand tool we have a signal level of 14dB at my CSP Box, I assume thats good, not really played with fibre since 25+ years.

Paul


14dB - relative to what?

dBu, dBm, dbW or even dBM ?

They didn't say, maybe Zarjaz would know.

All I saw was them stick one of our 4 fibres into the hand tool and it displayed 14dB, maybe I should of asked LOL.

*** update ***
Well I received a phone call from BT / Openreach asking if I was happy with the date of the 19th and that she was going to re-book it for this Monday, I said yeah that would be great.
I did mention that next door is getting their internal work done tomorrow, which was when she said she would phone the engineer to see if they have a free slot and that she would phone back with an update.

At this point I was like, yeah, Monday would be great, then a little while later she phoned back saying its now booked for tomorrow morning between 8am and 1pm for the internal work smile

So I am very happy now smile

I gave me enough time to redo some Ethernet cables so that its ready for the ONT and Smart Hub to be connected up.


Paul

Edited by PaulKirby (Thu 13-Oct-16 18:02:30)

Standard User PaulKirby
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 14-Oct-16 11:08:08
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Well I received a phone call 7:30 this morning from the engineer saying he was on his way.

He installed the ONT + BBU along with the phone cable from the ONT to the master socket for the FVA which will activate later on.

The speeds look great.

Speed Test via speedtest.net
Speed Test via TBB

So yeah, it seems to be working fine so far.

Paul
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 14-Oct-16 12:19:20
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Praise be !


Time to enjoy it after your long wait.

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