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(deleted) Thu 01-Dec-16 11:51:10
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Re: Openreach Employment - Board Level


[re: kebabselector] [link to this post]
 
Don't spoil your arguments by posting stupid comments. BT is a company answerable to its shareholders and if upgrading a cab in Mayfair was considered commercially viable they had every right to do so. Your comment only makes sense if you can prove that an update in Mayfair or elsewhere was commercially unviable.
Standard User kebabselector
(member) Thu 01-Dec-16 12:02:33
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Re: Openreach Employment - Board Level


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In reply to a post by MCM:
Don't spoil your arguments by posting stupid comments. BT is a company answerable to its shareholders and if upgrading a cab in Mayfair was considered commercially viable they had every right to do so. Your comment only makes sense if you can prove that an update in Mayfair or elsewhere was commercially unviable.


It wasn't a cab it was 3000 properties and business addresses upgrading to FTTP.

Current on Zen, getting around 5mb down - .8mb up
Exchange is Fibre enabled, Cab not economically viable to upgrade - though 'Now Exploring Solutions aka we want someone else to pay for it.'
Stechford (CMSTE) Cab 50 - small cabinet of fail
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(deleted) Thu 01-Dec-16 12:03:29
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Re: Openreach Employment - Board Level


[re: kebabselector] [link to this post]
 
Another option to consider is clubbing together with other residents & self funding a FTTC cabinet. You said there's around 200 homes in your vicinity not served by vdsl2, if a new FTTC cab was to cost £25k (a figure I've seen bandied around) then that could work out as low as £125 per household which isn't bad at all. Obviously the trick is managing to convince all/majority of the residents to pay into the pot.

http://www.communityfibre.bt.com/


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(deleted) Thu 01-Dec-16 12:10:03
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Re: Openreach Employment - Board Level


[re: kebabselector] [link to this post]
 
So what, please provide evidence that this was carried out a loss to BT. As it is you are coming across as little more than a whinger saying gimme, gimme. Someone who from their sig has a better connection than many whilst also having the option of VM.

If you want to do something about this get your local community together and put your hand in your pockets rather than expect others to do so. And before you reply I'm coming from a position where I live in central London, have no VM and until recently was, together with my neighbours, on long exchange only lines on the Vauxhall exchange with speeds in most cases worse than yours. Upset yes, but we didn't whinge, instead we put our hands in our pockets and community gap funded the installation of an AIO cabinet to serve us all.
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(deleted) Thu 01-Dec-16 12:13:04
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Our new gap funded AIO cab and consequential network rearrangement serving 75 properties here in SW9 on the Vauxhall exchange in London came in at a fair bit less than £25K.
Standard User kebabselector
(member) Thu 01-Dec-16 12:21:24
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Re: Openreach Employment - Board Level


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Looked at that solution, was quoted around 18k + vat I would pay towards it, but as Virgin are present getting people to move is tricky as a VDSL solution 'appears' to be slower.

Thanks for the pointers I'm am greatful for suggestions. I've mentioned to BT in the past about the possibity of a 2nd ADSL connection for consumers in my situation provided at a lower cost as we wouldn't need to use the phone service - but alas nothing.

Current on Zen, getting around 5mb down - .8mb up
Exchange is Fibre enabled, Cab not economically viable to upgrade - though 'Now Exploring Solutions aka we want someone else to pay for it.'
Stechford (CMSTE) Cab 50 - small cabinet of fail
Standard User kebabselector
(member) Thu 01-Dec-16 12:29:03
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Re: Openreach Employment - Board Level


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In reply to a post by MCM:
Our new gap funded AIO cab and consequential network rearrangement serving 75 properties here in SW9 on the Vauxhall exchange in London came in at a fair bit less than £25K.


SW9, ouch I can see why paying £333 (based on 25k) for internet wouldn't seem too bad. Just checked the Zoopla prices in that area.

In reply to a post by MCM:
So what, please provide evidence that this was carried out a loss to BT. As it is you are coming across as little more than a whinger saying gimme, gimme. Someone who from their sig has a better connection than many whilst also having the option of VM.


I have no evidence, but we have no evidence of the viability study for that area either. As for whinging, yes I am. I just would like something that people 200metres away can have. As for you case in Central london - that just shows how bad the network is. A major city with a poor internet infrastructure. It's good that you've self funded the cabinet but are you happy that you had to do it when others get it for free?

Current on Zen, getting around 5mb down - .8mb up
Exchange is Fibre enabled, Cab not economically viable to upgrade - though 'Now Exploring Solutions aka we want someone else to pay for it.'
Stechford (CMSTE) Cab 50 - small cabinet of fail

Edited by kebabselector (Thu 01-Dec-16 12:36:35)

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(deleted) Thu 01-Dec-16 12:33:35
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Yet another remark where you display your ignorance. SW9 is far from a wealthy area of London nor one with high property prices. Stockwell and Brixton aren't quite in the same league as your beloved Mayfair.

May I suggest you stop whinging and do something. At least you can get VM which is more than we can here so why not give it a go and give us a rest from your continual griping.
Standard User kebabselector
(member) Thu 01-Dec-16 12:46:42
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Re: Openreach Employment - Board Level


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In reply to a post by MCM:
Yet another remark where you display your ignorance. SW9 is far from a wealthy area of London nor one with high property prices.


http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/property/london/bri...

O.k.

Current on Zen, getting around 5mb down - .8mb up
Exchange is Fibre enabled, Cab not economically viable to upgrade - though 'Now Exploring Solutions aka we want someone else to pay for it.'
Stechford (CMSTE) Cab 50 - small cabinet of fail
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 01-Dec-16 13:10:03
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Re: Openreach Employment - Board Level


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By "your area" I meant your very local area - those on your cab. It is irrelevant that the exchange is enabled or that other cabs are - most of the costs at this point are in enabling the cabinet as has been said a few times in this thread. They are continually updating the way they do things and it could be that a change in the electricity market or something else could change the numbers to make your cab viable - that is why you are still on the "possible" pile. Other people's cabs have gone from not being viable to being implemented as things have changed.
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