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Standard User professor973
(knowledge is power) Sat 10-Dec-16 12:16:54
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Now ordering the 130 after confirming death of OR modem. It would not feed the Draytek, just like the Fritzbox.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 10-Dec-16 12:20:42
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Thanks to those who have posted about getting stats from the 130, particularly wrt ASUS.

Are they reasonably full stats please? As in Max Attainable rather than just sync, also interleaving depth and G.INP info.


The webgui on the 130 just gives you basic stats (actual xdsl sync rate & SNR). To get comprehensive stats incl G.INP status, max attainable rate etc, go to web console in webgui (top right icon) and type

'vdsl status'
'vdsl status more'
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 10-Dec-16 12:22:09
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Great! Thanks smile.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 10-Dec-16 12:23:39
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Now ordering the 130 after confirming death of OR modem. It would not feed the Draytek, just like the Fritzbox.


Excellent choice. It ain't cheap but like most Draytek gear its high quality hardware.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 10-Dec-16 12:26:14
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[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Thanks to those who have posted about getting stats from the 130, particularly wrt ASUS.

Are they reasonably full stats please? As in Max Attainable rather than just sync, also interleaving depth and G.INP info.


In the V130 GUI look at the top right , there are 5 icons, middle one is Web Console.

Click that and type vdsl status (enter)

next type vdsl status more (enter) that gives you this :


Type ? for command help
> vdsl status

---------------------- ATU-R Info (hw: annex A, f/w: annex A/B/C) -----------
Running Mode : 17A State : SHOWTIME
DS Actual Rate : 79995000 bps US Actual Rate : 20000000 bps
DS Attainable Rate : 82152744 bps US Attainable Rate : 32977732 bps
DS Path Mode : Fast US Path Mode : Fast
DS Interleave Depth : 1 US Interleave Depth : 1
NE Current Attenuation : 13 dB Cur SNR Margin : 6 dB
DS actual PSD : 3. 1 dB US actual PSD : 3. 3 dB
NE CRC Count : 2002 FE CRC Count : 283
NE ES Count : 1390 FE ES Count : 244
Xdsl Reset Times : 0 Xdsl Link Times : 1
ITU Version[0] : b5004946 ITU Version[1] : 544e0000
VDSL Firmware Version : 05-07-06-0D-01-07 [with Vectoring support]
Power Management Mode : DSL_G997_PMS_L0
Test Mode : DISABLE
-------------------------------- ATU-C Info ---------------------------------
Far Current Attenuation : 12 dB Far SNR Margin : 15 dB
CO ITU Version[0] : b5004946 CO ITU Version[1] : 544eb206
DSLAM CHIPSET VENDOR : < IFTN >
> vdsl status more

---------------------- ATU-R Info (hw: annex A, f/w: annex A/B/C) -----------
Near End Far End Note
Trellis : 1 1
Bitswap : 1 1
ReTxEnable : 0 0
VirtualNoise : 0 0
20BitSupport : 0 0
LatencyPath : 0 0
LOS : 0 0
LOF : 0 0
LPR : 0 0
LOM : 0 0
SosSuccess : 0 0
NCD : 0 0
LCD : 0 0
FECS : 47977 6493 (seconds)
ES : 1390 244 (seconds)
SES : 0 0 (seconds)
LOSS : 0 190 (seconds)
UAS : 33 4963 (seconds)
HECError : 0 0
CRC : 2002 283
RsCorrection : 0 0
INP : 0 0 (symbols)
InterleaveDelay : 0 0 (1/100 ms)
NFEC : 255 255
RFEC : 16 16
LSYMB : 5410 21451
INTLVBLOCK : 255 255
AELEM : 0 ----
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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Sat 10-Dec-16 12:35:15
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Just concerning why do peoples want to buy Draytek 130 - what so special of this? This hardware doesn't come with any wifi and very poor vdsl stats (not full stats) and why have to use two seperator eg: Modem and Router plugged two sockets.

I am more than happy with Billion BiPAC 8800NL with just one socket and still getting full vdsl stats and I know the wifi is very poor on this hardware but it doesn't bothered me at all as I use ethernet direct to my pc. Can use this poor wifi to access my smartphone!

Edited by adslmax (Sat 10-Dec-16 12:36:37)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 10-Dec-16 12:41:23
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As usual your talking out of your rear end .

It is a MODEM . it can't have any WiFi.

It is designed to work with cable type routers or as a bridge.

As to stats it has FULL stats available via the GUI or telnet and far more than most other devices around.

People use a two box ( or more) system for many reasons, I can reset, configure , tweak or turn off my router without disturbing the modem or upsetting DLM .
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 10-Dec-16 12:45:57
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In reply to a post by adslmax:
Just concerning why do peoples want to buy Draytek 130 - what so special of this? This hardware doesn't come with any wifi and very poor vdsl stats (not full stats) and why have to use two seperator eg: Modem and Router plugged two sockets.

I am more than happy with Billion BiPAC 8800NL with just one socket and still getting full vdsl stats and I know the wifi is very poor on this hardware but it doesn't bothered me at all as I use ethernet direct to my pc. Can use this poor wifi to access my smartphone!


The Draytek 130 is a dedicated adsl/vdsl modem. Many people (myself included) prefer a separate modem & wifi router setup as you get far more options available on a standalone router (eg OpenVPN server) not to mention better wifi & more powerful processors on the higher end routers. Horses for courses really smile
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Sat 10-Dec-16 12:48:46
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Yes but plugged two sockets seem a bit daft (waste of electricity bill in my view)
Standard User professor973
(knowledge is power) Sat 10-Dec-16 12:55:43
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Quite simple Max, as in my case and at least one other here, the ISP supplied modem router is [censored]. Others we own, about ten here, either don't like the ISP flavour of VDSL IPv6 or don't have a built in VDSL modem. Some, in the case of cable routers have no inbuilt modem at all. So the bottom line is, that a separate modem gives a bigger choice of router, along with compatibility in some cases. But I am sure such a knowledgeable chap as you knows that Max, so can only assume you are just winding us up about your posh router, when the likes of us plebs have to make do with a Fritzbox and Draytek triple WAN in our collection wink
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